So he did pass away from COVID, then? An early victim? It's all that jet setting in first class. International travel was pretty dangerous when the virus first escaped from the lab. It's now evolved to be no more dangerous then any other flu like virus.
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Jehovah’s Witnesses President Robert Ciranko dies of coronavirus
by Balaamsass2 infyi.
this showed up on my google feed.
i couldn't find an earlier story in the search box.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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At one point it was said that I earn a six figure salary, which is just completely untrue.
More weasel words. Semantic games.
Ipsilon Media makes six figures. Ipsilon Media is him. Ok he has to pay Tibor out of that, but again - & I'm sorry for Tibor and all that - it's not essential for his channel to have a video editor. He's just a dude talking in front of a camera with occasional JW.org video interspersed. Claiming "he received" the message (from whom, Dijana? Or was this the left side of his brain telling the right?) his wages would not be paid is laughable.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Vin As soon as his eldest daughter can read and do math, I guess she will be hired by the family business.
You can guarantee that Vin, because it means his personal income is less so he's taxed less. And because what he "pays" Dijana will be so small, she won't be taxed at all, in all probability. Splitting income from a business is an old ruse for the family to pay less as a whole. I wouldn't mind, everyone takes advantage of tax laws. But as someone said it's just his way of avoiding child support.The admin/arranging interviews BS to grift from those who give to a cause, just stinks. The patreon began specifically to reimburse his time spent on watchtower projects and was never an open paycheck.
He's so effing LAZY! He does one interview every couple of months, if that!! He gets all his info free from the internet and "his" research has already been done for him! Yes it's great to have a video of editor, but many exjw videos look just as well produced without one.
As to grifting the vulnerable he's learned from the best, that's for sure.
When I think of all the superchats I chucked every Watchtower in focus live! Because Irwin Zalkin was there telling victims he would help, and Kim was breaking everything down legally, and Mark was going over cases he went thousands of miles to observe and report on for us......all the time Lloyd's ugly mug in the top left hand corner - grinning like a cheshire cat as all that cash went STRAIGHT into his porn hub account. Nothing to victims, nothing for Kim at least to pay her internet fees, nothing to reimburse Mark's (I'm sure) hefty travel expenses. Grrrrrr. It doesn't matter if these colleagues "refuse" you damn well insist!!! It's not payment it's just reimbursing some of their costs! The greedy git was happy Mark refused!
Kim If he is comfortable at 620 patreons, what were they at 900??
Well, if you can take a two month long holiday in the tropics weeks after a month long break in the USA and two other family holidays on the Dalmatian coast in a year I wouldn't say you're exactly struggling. Especially when you live mortgage and rent free. He was complaining online about his shares and savings taking a nose-dive after Brexit and the recession, too. Which makes me think he's squirreling a lot away.
I also don't understand how he's stupid enough to deny his earnings, when it's there on the govt website for anyone to see. Is he a compulsive liar? Does he just enjoy it, or what? He seems to do a hell of a lot of it.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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LE "because I’ve had to let people go or Dijana go or both"
News flash Lloyd....you already have!
Not to mention that Dijana and an employee are on the same par says it all.
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Scriptures That Bothered You as a JW Kid.
by Sea Breeze inmy big one was: .
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20: 5 "but the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.
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The stuff about the lady being tested for adultery by having some mud put on her thigh - if it withered she was guilty.
.....hope she worked on her cellulite🤷♀️
Also the scripture about no angel ever calling himself God's son.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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think he was angry because she wouldn’t agree to his open marriage proposal. I don’t think he was interested in sex with Dijana. I think he only wanted her to maintain the married man facade, to look after his children and to be his housekeeper and personal chef. 🤷♀️
That video is what did it for me withLloyd. I've worked with some extremely manipulative men with narcissistic personality disorder, who will excuse ditching devoted spouses because they "enable" their bad behaviour! In other words the "my wife is too nice" defense! I saw a great deal of similarities in his behaviour. He was so calculated in that video and you could see he was beside himself with anger at not getting his way. Yet whilst he was claiming to have mental health issues at the same time he was being heartlessly dismissive of someone who was genuinely in Crises and even considering suicide. It was such an act. Clearly so. -
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Yes I did notice that he’s not getting the views that he used to get. I’m wondering what he was thinking when he shared damaging information with Kim. I believe that he did so intentionally in furtherance of an objective. The question is what was his objective?
Because hes a fetishistic pervert with absolutely no respect for women other than as sexual objects. He would have gotten a little thrill from telling not one but TWO women his nasty little sexy secret. I know how these men think, unfortunately.
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Who really is the faithful and discreet NATHEER SALIH ??
by Calebs Airplane inwe know he was faithful to frederick franz (or frederick franz was faithful to him).. we know he was discreet because so little is known about him today.
for example, we know that he was in the writing department (even though he never professed to being a jw), that wore expensive jewelry and that he was frederick franz spokesman (or did i get that backwards?)....
also, much has been said about salihs strange hebrew-to-english bible translations (supposedly used by frederick franz when writing certain wt articles) and several illuminati and/or freemason conspiracy theories have been analyzed, yet this guy has managed to slip under the radar almost completely unnoticed by all jws and will probably be completely forgotten in just a few years.. so, who really is the faithful and discreet natheer salih?
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virtually no name is completely unique.
NATHEER SALIH? How many JWs do you think there are with such an unusual middle eastern name, of Indian origin? How many christians with such a name, let alone JWs, let alone Bethelite JWs? There can only be one.
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Watchtower cashing in on the Hamburg tragedy?
by Listener inthank you very much atlantis for all your hard work and for emailing a letter written by the watchtower (coming from the german branch possibly) to be read out to congregations by elders.. there is so much wrong in this letter.
maybe some of it is due to being lost in translation but since the watchtower is predominantly english, it doesn't seem likely.
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They use that expression "we are pleased to inform you" for nearly everything they "do" - which is nothing - but "announce" that things are going to take place. It is a wholly innapropriate expression to use and nothing to do with translation, since translating is the one thing watchtower does well and you can guarantee this was gone over with a fine tooth comb by the society before release.
The also dont specify what help is being offered because there isnt any - at least not from watchtower. They might coordinate elders and COs to go visit the famillies of victims. But the only material help will come from the community itself, who will donate money, food and clothing etc. Individual JWs will be a part of that for sure, but watchtower wont give a dime.
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200-Year Anniversary of The Even Tide (1823) by John Aquila Brown
by Chevelle inthis is my first post.
i am a pimo who has been lurking for a while and i hope to make new friends here.. for now, i would just like to highlight that this year marks 200 years since john aquila brown wrote that crazy book(let) of speculations that charles taze russell practically copy/pasted into his "studies in the scriptures" which eventually affected all of our lives in one way or another.. cheers.
chevelle.
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other than that, he is a complete mystery
lol
welcome to the forum friend. Interesting info, incredible that such a crazy piece of random musing should have such a profoundly destructive influence on millions of lives even 200 years later!