Posts by Diogenesister

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

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have stuff like AI that can be fed text and spew out anything with similar wording.

🤦🏻‍♀️😂😂 You've never read Ai chat have you?

If that source isn't posting anything that's false and has been given access to the letter by LE or Dijana then why not just come out and say who they are and how they got access to the letters.

😂Yeah....like they're that stupid. Ever hear of the case Megan Markle filed against the Mail for publishing emails she wrote her Dad? The Mail lost, even though they were genuine and her Dad gave them to the Mail. Jumping Jabba the Hutts.. not allowing (the story of 'O') Polo to go running off to the Litigation Mobile with this one !!!

Ortiz has all but confirmed contents only he and Lloyd could reasonably have known anyway. Certainly not some random email faker!!

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

For people that don't believe Kim Silvio

There many things in that letter that would only be there if it were genuine (It's ludicrous that Kim would risk staking her 100% honest reputation on claiming its authenticity if it weren't, too).

Just one example - I also noted that Dijana mentioned wanting to vomit when he went to meet 'her'.

I've already noted Dijana reacts in that way to Lloyds sexual cruelties elsewhere.

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Ramapo

by Mit123 in

how much is ramapo going to cost?

my daughter in africa meets in a cow shed for her meetings.

i wonder how many khs in africa they could build if they dropped ramapo?.

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Dozy The whole point of these projects is to build tax free with "slave" labour , hold for a few years , sell , repeat.

Yup. The true reason for this is the huge re sale value of a television studio (or hire/rental value ). The 'mark up' will be huge considering labour & materials are mostly donated

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

Kristy's video said he was married on a beach in Croatia (which he may have been) however did he marry after he "fled" to Croatia? Don't want to get my facts wrong, here. Would you happen to know RaymondFrantz? I'm trying to write something about narcissism, high levels of porn fixation & infidelity with prostitutes being highly correlated (tied in with that letter the gob shite wrote)

NB I want to do something but I'm useless with video. I have ideas and I'd like to go over this letter because it shows his cruelty and narcissistic nature in full. It also demonstrates he makes a tidy living from his "job". If anyone wants to put something together that's concise as I said I will narrate to add another voice (I'll author it too but the video bit is beyond me. I do have a quite a powerful computer to hand though).

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

Pr0nerThen she tries to figure out how to be sexually compatible. He refuses and tells her it's only by letting him sleep with anyone but her. WTF?

I'm going to go over it in a sec, but that really jumped out to me!!

My god she even wants to know what rocks his boat! What kind of absolute unmentionable BAST*RD of a husband - who didn't love his wife - wouldn't jump at the chance of telling her! She obviously wants to try and make him happy🤦🏻‍♀️😭😭

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

If we write a script, bring some video and sound clips of cedars livestream, take screen grabs of the various Facebook posts he's made, controversy's and slinging matches he's got in to etc (most of it is on this thread, I'll also have a butchers at Kiwi Farms) and we title it "Lloyd Evans Defamation Campaign" I'm more than happy to narrate. Since he also accuses his detractors of hiding behind anonymity, I'm also happy to provide him with my details, full name etc. I've no family left alive in the org, nothing to hide and everything I'll be narrating is truthful with full receipts provided.

What does anyone think?

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Is the ministry really taken seriously by most JWs?

by XBEHERE in

jw
friends

what say you?.

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Journey Man I said before, I do think the cart witnessing itself was not a bad idea, but the way the org has implemented it is totally ineffective, telling publishers not to engage passers-by unless they are first approached.

When it was first introduced (here in Europe at least), publishers could offer literature held in their hands, and could engage passers-by in conversation. That seems much more appealing (to those who might be interested, of course) and more potentially effective

I think worst thing isn't just that they don't actively engage people. The worst thing, at least for me, is the fact that if anyone does approach them all they do - all they've been instructed to do - is direct you to jW dot org!!! They won't seem to discuss anything but their ruddy Website in all its thousand and one languaged glory!!

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Is the ministry really taken seriously by most JWs?

by XBEHERE in

jw
friends

what say you?.

Diogenesister

Journey man My favourite part of ministry was actually having Bible discussions/studies, because you knew the person wanted to be there, and it was a chance to really dig deeper and discuss their thoughts and feelings. But opportunities for these got rarer and rarer, partly due to increased lack of interest, but also partly due to the watering down of the study materials we were supposed to use.

100% I loved my Bible studies. Even the crazy ones! The students who were really interested were so enjoyable. Most of the time you had to hold them back because they'd zip through the books so fast (I mean not surprising given the material). But there was so much more to delve in to back then - even if most of it turned out to be cobblers....at least it was imaginative!!😜

I think it would be depressing to do a study now. Unless it was a six year old child who was studying. I'd find the material and the questions embarrassing to ask an adult - unless they were literally learning the language!🙄

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Dalai Lama asking boy to suck his tongue after kissing the child on his lips.

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

the dalai lama has apologised after footage showed him asking a boy if he wanted to suck the tibetan spiritual leader's tongue.. .

his office said he wanted to apologise to the child and his family "for the hurt his words may have caused".. .

the video also shows the dalai lama kissing the child on his lips.. soon after the pope alleged peodo activity .

Diogenesister

LMsA Totally agree.

Also, there's another issue with these "spiritual" men living a monastic life. Let's be real here. A monastic life of self denial, among other monks, with no family, no children, no women - is not easy for most men.

There's a reason the family unit - the more extended the better - is the way humans seem to live most successfully the world over. That's not to say there aren't problems within family's. We know there can be. But total solitude and an asexual life is not something most men - most people - find easy. It's also obvious that it's something that's going to be particularly attractive to gay men. Especially in the days before gay men could marry and live openly in their own family units.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

Slim Could I suggest ... The best and most effective response to his recent YouTube begging videos would be a succinct, targeted YouTube video specifically in response to his begging videos. Because most people find him on YouTube it stands to reason that’s where most of his patrons go on to find out about him as well. They are not reading forums or websites.

Excellent idea! You are exactly right Slim and this is what we need to do

An effective video shouldn’t be much longer than 20 minutes or so

Bloomin' 'Eck Slim, it's going to be hard cramming everything rotten the poncing Git has done in just 20 minutes!!😂🤣🤣

You're right again though. Succinct is best!