Diogenesister

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  🎄The Life of Antony Morris

  by Diogenesister in

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  🎄 just thought this not former/vidiot back & forth deserved it's own christmas special !!!🎄.

  vidiot6 days ago.

  notformer - “…if he does attend a kingdom hall physically, i imagine there're some ‘security’ arrangements in place…”.

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  Vidiot didn’t Top-Shelf say something along the lines of “the Governing Body is under attack like never before”, not long before he was put out to pasture?

  Guarantee Atlantis will know! (May have been the last but one AGM or a morning worship?)
  

  ElenaDoes anyone remember him talking about Tony criticising other members for flying around the world on holidays when there is so much work to be done?

  I remember some back and forth disagreements with Stephen Lett over something or other....buggered if I remember what atm (but it will come to me)
  
  
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  Geoffrey Jackson has a beard now

  by Tahoe in

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  LeeMerk Damn, now I look like a Jehovahs witness again 😆

  Lol😂

  Vidiot Maybe that’s the reason for the switch-up

  Vidiot cracks their real motives again!!*
  

  *See: Top Shelf Toni gets to go to meetings incognito!
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  Geoffrey Jackson has a beard now

  by Tahoe in

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  I - like Paul Grundy of JWfacts.com - always imagined Geoff Jackson would be the GB member most likely to turn on Watchtower policy.

  Sadly seeing him be so disingenuous at the Australian Royal Comission scuppered any such hope pretty fast.

  In his defence he was born-in and indoctrinated pretty thoroughly (his parents converted Grundy's family). He also lost a beloved first wife to cancer which can make you cling to paradise hope. Ssome people judged him for marrying their old 'pioneer partner' from the Polynesian islands after she died. I believe his motives were more noble in bringing a devoted, but poor, dear friend to bethel (let's face it he could have had any hot youngster he wanted)

  When I envisaged him as this rebel, though, being the first GB member to sport a beard wasn't exactly what I had in mind🤔
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  Resources: Spanish Association of Victims of Jehovah's witnesses

  by Diogenesister in

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  resources for the court case of the spanish congregation of jehovah's christian witnesses v. the spanish association of victims of jehovah's witnesses.

  eric wilson's translation:.

  https://youtu.be/sf5cjun2nvo?si=giqwrloq9mcpfvx2.

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  If membership, WT style, is not allowed until age 18, then at least the WT's claws are blunted somewhat, while freedom of religion is not being interfered. The rights to vote, drink alcohol and drive are all age dependent.

  Fully agree not Former
  
  
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  Geoffrey Jackson has a beard now

  by Tahoe in

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  😂😂 suits him actually
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  LMsAZoloft is not habit forming. What he didn’t tell you was he was withdrawing from something else.

  Probably Xanax or he might have even been abusing painkillers.

  Yes. The video he made before the whole thing came out, when he said he needed a mental health break etc (in his cold narcissistic rage mode), I thought he looked like he was taking amitriptyline - which can be habit forming - but it could easily have been Xanax, too (or the Croatian version). Defo something along those lines.

  Either way he looked absolutely furious. He was definitely sending a message to Dijana - "don't try to stop me going to Thailand or you'll have my flying monkeys to answer to!!"🤬
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  Thoughts on annual meeting “new light”

  by FFGhost in

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  so, i finally saw the annual meeting video part 2.. this is the one with the “new light” on who might survive armageddon, vs. those who do not.. in summary, for those of you fortunate enough not to have to sit through it, it’s something like this:.

  old light: once the “great tribulation” starts, that’s it for non-jws.

  the “door of the ark” is closed.

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  I think this may all be a build up to them shuttling 1914. We knew they'd have to at some point, but when they do they immediately loose their authority. They'll definitely come up with something else that does before they do, though, and whatever that thing is it may be the reason Ant Mo left the GB. He wouldn't agree to these changes (or ones to come) and left of his own volition, which explains the house and stipend.
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  Thoughts on annual meeting “new light”

  by FFGhost in

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  so, i finally saw the annual meeting video part 2.. this is the one with the “new light” on who might survive armageddon, vs. those who do not.. in summary, for those of you fortunate enough not to have to sit through it, it’s something like this:.

  old light: once the “great tribulation” starts, that’s it for non-jws.

  the “door of the ark” is closed.

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  XBEHERE That totally explains the beard thing. Not counting time is pretty big but I agree, it's a red herring.

  There's no way they haven't been reading apostate sites! I think even the GB are so unable to think for themselves - think critically - they get much of their new light from 'helpers' who've been listening to us. Listening to our reasoning over why they loose adherents and cannot make new ones.
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  Belgian court decision

  by vienne in

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  https://bitterwinter.org/the-ghent-saga-ends-belgium-cassation-court-confirms-that-shunning-is-lawful/.

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  There is a powerful case that shunning breaches the human rights of the vulnerable individuals such as children, the mentally ill and the elderly who may suffer more deeply from the cruelties of loneliness due to the way modern society is structured.

  Article 8: And what about the right to family life?

  Article 9: Freedom of thought and religion (specifically for apostates in this case).

  N.B. Massimo Introveign is an absolute fraud and has to be in the pockets of these cults because there's no way someone purporting to be an academic supporting freedom of thought and belief could champion Watchtower. He frequently outright lies in their defence, too.
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  Resources: Spanish Association of Victims of Jehovah's witnesses

  by Diogenesister in

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  resources for the court case of the spanish congregation of jehovah's christian witnesses v. the spanish association of victims of jehovah's witnesses.

  eric wilson's translation:.

  https://youtu.be/sf5cjun2nvo?si=giqwrloq9mcpfvx2.

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  I agree JWgoneBad. Sadly they've also had one positive in Brussels, though. Belgium has ruled in favour of their right to shun. I think the court has missed the point that it's not an individual choice. I also think they need to stress the fact that minors and vulnerable adults - such as the mentally ill - are also shunned when DF'd by family not under the same roof (& soft shunned even when they are).