Posts by Diogenesister

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For all JW's: Stop calling others "apostates."

by BoogerMan in

if you don't want to be thrown into gehenna, read what your own faithful evil slave & christ say:.

cj chap.

3 p. 110 chapter 3 - "jesus christ said: “whoever says, ‘you despicable fool!’ (apostate) will be liable to the fiery gehenna.” (matt.

Diogenesister

The great majority of JWs couldn't begin to show you what a genuine apostate is from the Bible itself.

Well that's it. They're mostly apostates themselves.

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Changing Avatar

by MillennialDawn in

i have tried several times but my avatar won't change.

any suggestions?

thank you.

Diogenesister

You could try posing in the technical help section. That way Simon will see your question and hopefully help you sort it. I'm guessing you've posted refresh?? Sometimes it takes a moment.

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Again, More confusion about the direction of the Watchtower Society

by Truth and Justice in

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hi friends, i have not been on this board in awhile, and i would like to get some thoughts from some of you.

i have noticed a change within my 4 siblings in approximately the last year and a half to 2 years regarding their communication with my mother and i. they have either phoned us, texted, emailed, or written a letter or card to us.

the conversation has been good, and on any topic that comes to mind.

Diogenesister

And up until recently, I never thought that the GB would try to reform the Church ... and yet now we are seeing signs of them trying.

But do they have the courage, to do a good job of it? Or will the reluctance for change, make them want to drag things out, too long? I just don't know.

No Zombie My old pal I think it's all about money (as usual!). Donations are going down and their 'outside consultancy firm' has probably told them if they want to keep the coffers coming in, they need to stop hemorrhaging JWs and lighten up.

Of course we also have plenty of PiMOs not donating now, too!

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

Diogenesister

Well Barbara Anderson said he's not only inaccurate in statements he's made to British media, but she made it pretty clear in Saturdays podcast she finds it abhorrent that a certain exjw you tuber is paid a monthly salary for his for-profit 'hacktivism' without which he'd have no interest in it.

I concur with Barb - a true activist driven by genuine principals for whom we all have enormous respect.

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Why Do JW's Believe that Hell is Symbolic When the Disciples of the Apostles believed it Was Literal ?

by Sea Breeze in

looks like the early christians believed jesus when he warned about hell over 40 times.

why don't the jw's do the same?.

from “the epistle of barnabas” (70-130ad).

Diogenesister

Apocrypha or church father writings or folk tales etc don't carry any weight for JW's, as I'm sure you know.

And it came to pass, as her soul was in departing, (for she died) that she called his name Benoni: but his father called him Benjamin. - Gen 35: 18

I don't see any mention of it, or any concept here. She called him a different name to his father? Either on her death bed or before?

he went and preached unto the spirits in prison” (hell) and then he raised himself from the dead…. while he was dead.

Preaching to angels or spirit creatures?

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Heretic!!!

by cellomould in

after the roman church had consolidated its power in the early middle ages, heretics came to be regarded as enemies of society.

the crime of heresy was defined as a deliberate denial of an article of truth of the catholic faith, and a public and obstinate persistence in that alleged error.

at this time, there was a sense of christian unity among townspeople and rulers alike, and most of them agreed with the church that heretics seemed to threaten society itself.. however, the repression of heresy remained unorganized, and with the large scale heresies in the 11th and 12th centuries, pope gregory ix instituted the papal inquisition in 1231 for the apprehension and trial of heretics.

Diogenesister

I thought the reason the church burned people at the stake was because they could not shed blood (clearly an absurd "work around". A perfect example of the letter of the law but not the spirit).

Saying the church is holy but the people transgress....well, I'm not buying it. The people are the church.

However, I find your argument about the threat non European's pretending to be Christian posed, whilst spying for the Caliphate. A compelling reason to take drastic action, Since the caliphate wished to reconquer Spain. But what of the Jews? The church cannot claim the conversos were a threat?

Interesting Watchtower judicial meetings follow the exact same methodology the Spanish inquisition used, according to Dr. Jim Penton!

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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friends

uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

Diogenesister

Oh boy. If Cedars gets a monthly salary from a wealthy donor, does it even make any difference if others stop donating? He'll continue regardless.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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friends

uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

Diogenesister

Jeff I was going to say (again) that I don't think the word "churn" means what he thinks it does.

Jeff he's picked up on what I call "tube speak" - Many you tubers not only use specific terms, but they even have their own inflections or prosody.. the intonation of their words and they way they stress (or don't) speech. I find it fascinating in an annoying kind of way. Anyway he's picked up on that term, for some reason. Maybe he thinks it resonates with his younger audience. Me I think it sounds like what it is....repetitive, mindless junk (those 'sushi's' for one).