there's been a lot of discussion about the changes in the org.
you might think all this would shake things up, especially for the older or super dedicated jws.
but remember when gb decided all the khs and the bank accounts needed to be transferred/managed from the top?
OP I agree Watchtowers land grabbing of kingdom halls etc was an outrageous stunt that should have caused massive outcry.
The fact it didn't has more to do with the fact so much of that sort of thing is kept from ordinary JWs. I mean to this day many of them have no idea of how that all worked. Elders were the only ones it affected and they either stepped down and/or left quietly for fear of loosing family, or stayed on because they enjoy the prestige.
title: jesus' perception of himself: a nuanced view of equality in a patriarchal society.
introduction:.
the perception of jesus christ's divinity has been a subject of theological debate for centuries.
Although I agree with you about AI answers, Pete, it does make an interesting point about viewing Jesus words through the lense of cultural norms of the time.
Like Boogieman I'd also like to know where the translation of "no miracle I can show" comes from, too. It does sound possible.
i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.
the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.
i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.
Blues I am sorry, but I just don’t but Redsetter2’s list of expected changes. All that about sex being tolerated ...... no it does not ring true .
But wasn't he saying anything up until sex (ie the kind you can get pregnant by) is a conscience thing? DF all these engaged or otherwise together young couples who have not had pre marital sex is beyond absurd. As someone else mentioned, at what point do you draw the line if not actual penetrative sex?? For some couples its been enough to touch a breAst during A hug and kiss. Trying to police lines in such an area gets you in to silly territory. Once they've accepted their faith prohibits pre marital sex, people have to take responsibility for their own conscience up until that point their faith prohibits. The GB clearly réalise the current policy is both impractical, uncomfortable for elders and loosing them young members.
i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.
the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.
i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.
Hard to believe smoking or drugs will ever be conscience issues
I actually think this makes sense.
I think what redsetter2 is trying to convey is that problems with drink or drugs will be treated as they always should have been as a medical issue where by the person needs help, care and support from family, elders and substance abuse teams. DF and shunning a person in this state is just about the worst thing you could do and will likely result in worsening addiction and even suicide.
the trinity doctrine says god is three persons in one being.. yet the bible says god is one.. gal 3.20 a mediator, however, implies more than one party; but god is one.
niv.
gal 3.20 now a mediator is not for just one person, but god is one.
Ah, an apophatic theologian
Blimey now that's a term you don't hear every day.😂
I had to look this one up Slim!
you heard me correct, this is not a joke, and it is not april fools day!
the asl portion of the governing body updated #2 (march 2024) has been released a bit early and someone caught it.
summary: .
Yes. I concur. This is all just too little,, too late.
How about a homeless shelter. Or even a soup kitchen for the ""less privileged" ones.
Beth Sarim this would be the clincher. If I saw this I might believe they were genuine. The problem with watchtower is they think too highly of themselves. They think everything - every recource - should go in their direction and its wasteful to allow jehovahs possetions to benefit anyone else. What they really need is a little humility.
you heard me correct, this is not a joke, and it is not april fools day!
the asl portion of the governing body updated #2 (march 2024) has been released a bit early and someone caught it.
summary: .
Zilgee - “Will the anointed now fight with each other in heaven?”
vidiot Probably not.
But I would totally watch that movie.
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ohiocowboy has just posted this information on the two other threads dealing with the sudden collapse of the unthank cases.. i don't know steven unthank, but i just want to thank him from the bottom of my heart for having the courage against overwhelming odds to try and bring the watch tower society to justice over their deplorable neglect when it comes to protecting children from abuse and molestation.. steven is a man of justice and integrity who i deeply admire.
his actions will never be forgotten, and i only hope he can find it within himself to continue his work in whatever avenue may become available in the future.. they have won this battle, but they can never win the war.. .
cedars.
Nomad soul Cedars, with all due respect, I think you're a weirdo.
There I said it.
I second that e-motion
has anyone else caught this tidbit in the new s-395 instructions?:.
"if the individual is not an apostate or actively promoting wrongdoing, they will also inform him that they would like to meet with him again in three months to determine if he has had a change of heart.
in some cases, but not all, the committee may determine that there is basis for reinstating the individual at that time".
Slim The second is less likely if their overarching concern is to make reforms that please governments. They may see reform getting out of hand but conclude that a crackdown is not viable at that point.
After telling JWs for decades to prepare themselves for "persecution" (and using it as a 'mark' of their authenticity as Christians), it appears they fear government censure above all else!!?
has anyone else caught this tidbit in the new s-395 instructions?:.
"if the individual is not an apostate or actively promoting wrongdoing, they will also inform him that they would like to meet with him again in three months to determine if he has had a change of heart.
in some cases, but not all, the committee may determine that there is basis for reinstating the individual at that time".
So Watchtower can argue in court that shunning is equivalent to a spiritual "Time out". A mere "naughty step" if you will, with a short upper time limit. Nothing to see here....🤷🏻♀️
