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  What I Remember From The Past...

  by titch in

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  folks: regarding all the recent changes about dis-fellowshipping and time for re-instatement.

  (and, even speaking to persons who are dis-fellowshpped.

  ) back in 1972, a new book was released at the summer district convention, that replaced the yellow-colored "lamp": book.

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  Scenic viewer I remember a Circuit Overseer asking that exact question in one of his talks, but his answer was different. What did he say? 'Someone else will be along to help that person.'

  Oh brother! How can a so-called Christian not see the resemblance of his words to the behaviour of the priest and Levite in Jesus' parable of "the good Samaritan"??

  I do remember the era of families being allowed to talk to DF relatives...only no spiritual association. That was the mid 70s. Then the rule about DA ones being enforced. I knew there was an 'apostate at Bethel' and learned the truth about Ray in the mid 2000s.
  
  
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  The Memorial and my thoughts.

  by Truth and Justice in

  1. jw
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  no matter what opinions you may have, the memorial is very important to us.

  many are opposed to the way the organization performs the memorial because of restrictive rules as to who should partake.

  as jesus said in scripture, "keep doing this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.

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  Thanksgiving

  Surely that's a national celebration? I doubt they'd allow that. They'd have to allow many other national celebrations, such as Bastille day and May 1st etc

  Independence day? Billions celebrate independence from England in one form or another. 1.6 to be precise.

  
  
  
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  The Memorial and my thoughts.

  by Truth and Justice in

  1. jw
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  no matter what opinions you may have, the memorial is very important to us.

  many are opposed to the way the organization performs the memorial because of restrictive rules as to who should partake.

  as jesus said in scripture, "keep doing this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.

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  LmsAIf they are serious about going mainstream, they will have to do this.

  It’s really a no-brainer at this point. People who have been told it was forbidden for a long time will be excited to partake, will feel closer to God and thank the organisation for it.

  I agree. In fact I think they see how many Witnesses leave because they initially at least start to question this in the back of their minds.
  
  
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  GB Update #2, March 2024: Women allowed to wear pants, no ties/coats required if not giving a talk, & now able to greet DF ones in the KH!

  by WingCommander in

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  you heard me correct, this is not a joke, and it is not april fools day!

  the asl portion of the governing body updated #2 (march 2024) has been released a bit early and someone caught it.

  summary: .

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  Viddy which can’t help but foster unspoken questions like, “Gosh, if ‘apostates’ were right about this, that, and the other thing, WTF else are they right about???”

  😏

  It do always work that way....like dominoes...
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  Lack of Joy

  by Gorb in

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  because of some respect for family members, we visited the memorial today.. a moment i always think, could i go back into this religion?

  we entered the hall and some said a short hello.

  and with short i say short.

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  Funny thing Gorb, even 35+ years ago I went to the memorial with a mother and her DF daughter (I wasn't baptized and a minor anyway). I'll never forget the daughter's take away that day.

  "But mum.....they all look so miserable...."
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  Special talk/Memorial (Trigger warning maybe?!?)

  by gabcol in

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  first off, you all are amazing.

  though i don't comment much on here, it is nice to read all of your posts and see our shared knowledge/experiences.

  thank you for everything.. so, here in australia, we just had the special talk and tonight was the memorial.

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  Lovely post Gabcol

  Blues He spoke almost entirely about the paradise earth future compared to the world today and his examples of “blessings “ were large houses, hot tubs and sailing boats ! All very materialistic.

  How awful! Why not go preach on the London Stock Exchange if that's his bag....
  
  
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  The Memorial and my thoughts.

  by Truth and Justice in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  no matter what opinions you may have, the memorial is very important to us.

  many are opposed to the way the organization performs the memorial because of restrictive rules as to who should partake.

  as jesus said in scripture, "keep doing this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.

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  T & J Do you think the org will change it's stance as to only "anointed" ones partaking? In fact, they view the whole Bible as being written for Christa brothers ie not most JWs.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Mike Why does this sound familiar?

  I asked can’t you work from home? She said yes easier but they want us to come in to work,

  all for free

  Like Lloyd they probably don't want whatever she's working on outside their own hard drives ie nothing formatted to work anywhere outside of their total control!

  Even if it selfishly means more effort and expenses incurred by the unpaid worker.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  LmsAreduce the doctrinal rebuttals and attempt to cleverly weave them into his personal narrative instead of devoting chapters to it,

  Good grief! I've never felt the urge to read Cedars book and I'm glad I didn't. Sounds like a jumbled up mess. I assumed he'd woven doctrinal issues into the narrative as it came up🤔 Sounds like it couldn't make up it's mind whether it was a memoir or a text book!!

  The main reason I didn't read it was because I assumed the book would be rather sparse when it comes to his personal history.

  A sheltered young Jehovah's witness from a stable British home, isn't going to have much of interest to relate....at least not a life full of what my kids call "mad lore" to relate!! Hence I suppose the inclusion of other people's stories?!

  Also anyone not a Jehovah's witness, probably wouldn't find a young man whose memoir essentially consists 7of "I masturbated" a particularly revelatory read for, what, fifteen quid??!
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  If the org. Is being advised by consultants, is a name change in the works?

  by nowwhat? in

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  let's be honest, there's a stigma to the name jehovah's witness.

  if they are going more mainstream.

  i imagine the first recommendation was a name change.

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  Stan the man they should definitely dump the word WATCHTOWER. Lose the prison camp connotation.

  Oh lor I can't believe they didn't ditch it eons ago. It's only a legal title - the dubs won't care - but it has a really dark connotation.

  But drop Jehovah? I can't see that happening anytime soon🤔

  The irony is it is a totally made up word and the one thing they could drop using legitimate references & proof (of which many JWs are already aware) and referring back to the old Watchtowers that have already explained the dubious origin of the word.