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  Materialistic and Soon

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  2. bible

  i was reading a bart ehrman book, .

  armageddon: what the bible really says about the end.

  no, i won't bore you with complicated various theories i was reading.

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  BB The stuff about living in nice places left behind by the dead always struck me as quite gruesome. But we grew up in a poor and downtrodden area, and the homes weren't ostentatious or in good shape. The thought of it all being crushed and buried would have been more to our liking. I guess that's just about as creepy.

  Yes...I wasn't born in a poor and downtrodden area but I was born in the UK and believe me, if any of us had mentioned that whole thing about inheriting worldly mansions it would have gotten us in the back room so fast our feet wouldn't touch!!😳🤯Maybe it was a British thing. Life was less materialistic back then anyway.

  In fact, despite our homes being modest, they were comfortable and homely and many of us were saddened we would loose them when everything worldly was destroyed. Even the treasures in the Louvre etc, let alone a 3 or 4 bed semi in the shires.
  
  
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  Vomit Eaters and Filthy Whores

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the watchtower characterizes christians not affiliated with the watchtower corporation as vomit eaters and filthy whores: .

  “how well they pictured the spiritual drunkards of christendom at the present time!

  besides actual wine and intoxicating liquors, there are other things to intoxicate the priests and preachers in christendom so as to induce drowsiness in them, to make them reel, to confuse things before their religious vision, to induce them to belch out the vomit of spiritually filthy things” - w59 3/1 pp.

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  They're certainly the most judgemental mofos, considering they are specifically commanded NOT to judge.
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  Leaked Info: Watchtower Received $497 Million From One Country (Britain) In Last Six Years! [Must Watch!]

  by Golden4Altar in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  leaked info:watchtower received $497 million from one country (britain) in last six years!

  [must watch!].

  this video was just released with documented proof, see this link: https://jehovahstruth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=187#p187.

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  NF I think one of the scandals about WT back in the day was that as a religion, they didn't have to pay property taxes on their Brooklyn Heights properties. Not sure if they were exempt from NYC rates/taxes/levies, whatever. Critics saw what everyone here knows: the WT was a tax exempt publishing company

  Interesting. Thank you!
  
  

  Having the WT move out of NYC was probably a huge boon to the city and the state.

  Yes actually didn't think of that, it's certainly a drain on local government and therefore local residents (ie other businesses that big would be paying large sums in taxes).

  Have you researched the finances of other denominations?

  Vienne, with the exception of cults, you cannot compare Watchtower's opaque and frankly dishonest business model with most religions, who do at least give back to their community and to that of the poor and disadvantaged worldwide.

  Watchtower donations are our business when those donating are being deceived (lies at convention's re: deficits ) and stolen from (Kingdom Hall snatches).
  
  
  
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  How does the Govering Body get enlightenment?

  by no-zombie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from the earliest of times of the catholic church's ecumenical councils were used to make major changes to its doctrinal direction.

  decisions were made by bishops, they were ratified by the pope ... and it was done.

  and the laity had to accepted them or not.. and while splinter catholic religions accepted most of these councils, non-trinitarian faiths which developed latter (of which jehovah's witnesses are apart) did not.

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  The Great Replacement Theory ;)

  This seemed to be confirmed when almost all who were baptized after 1935 felt that they had the earthly hope. Thereafter, any called to the heavenly hope were believed to be replacements for anointed Christians who had proved unfaithful.

  This always confused me. Given that anointed ones by their very definition are unlikely to "fall" out of grace undeserved kindness, the number of replacements must have always been mighty small. Ok. Maybe we can accept there'll be a few (we did). But even in the 80s and 90s (when this theory was still believed by many) those numbers must have dwindled to nothing simply because all the anointed had mostly died.

  So how are there still being "replacements" created? And in such numbers!! Surely you have to be alive on earth to sin?! Or did this mean those with the heavenly calling were sinning up in heaven ??!!😳
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  Lloyd Evans Patreoff May 2024

  by DerekMoors in

  1. social
  2. humour

  time for this month's patreoff!

  the fat one's numbers seem to be leveling off a bit, but we all know someone with his gravitational pull can't keep up momentum for long.. i made up another chart and used 356 for april because that's where he was on the 2nd.

  also, this time last year was when he put out his "things are bad and i don't just mean what i look like naked" video and got a +187 bump.

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  Is there a thread for the next PatreOff yet?

  Derek said he's really busy with work this month & can someone else run it for June?

  I will if Toblerone5 can't do it. I think she's our natural for the job but I'm happy to if she's busy because she always does our charts so fabulously.

  Congratulations Ozzie the maths whizz!🥰😂🍷🍷🍷Nice Shiraz for you (Barossa?)!
  
  
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  Leaked Info: Watchtower Received $497 Million From One Country (Britain) In Last Six Years! [Must Watch!]

  by Golden4Altar in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  leaked info:watchtower received $497 million from one country (britain) in last six years!

  [must watch!].

  this video was just released with documented proof, see this link: https://jehovahstruth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=187#p187.

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  Mark W. It may be a relatively small amount of money, but it's currency permanently leaving my country for no benefit. Year after year.

  Yes all the cash ($30,000,000 annual estimate) flows to "Mother HQ". May explain why the USA govt isn't in a big hurry to curtail the shenanigans of it's (not a few) home grown cults.

  Ok they're not paying income tax BUT they're spending that cash on US businesses & other forms of indirect taxation (Ant Mo's Scotch bill?) . Also land taxes/council taxes etc, I presume?
  
  
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  Leaked Info: Watchtower Received $497 Million From One Country (Britain) In Last Six Years! [Must Watch!]

  by Golden4Altar in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  leaked info:watchtower received $497 million from one country (britain) in last six years!

  [must watch!].

  this video was just released with documented proof, see this link: https://jehovahstruth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=187#p187.

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  It was estimated Watchtower earns 30 billion dollars per year in total donations (including legacies and share dividends etc) TAX FREE!
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  My new book "The Universe of Destructive Sects" (Portuguese)

  by Antonio_Madaleno in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on may 13th, my new book will be on sale in portuguese bookstores and amazon (e-book).here is the book description text:"don't be a victim anymore!.

  explore the deepest secrets of the human mind and uncover the manipulation techniques behind destructive sects and high-control groups.

  this book, written by researcher antónio madaleno, is the key to this unknown, fascinating and, at the same time, disturbing world.. discover how charismatic leaders exert influence over their followers, manipulating their minds and controlling their lives to the extreme.

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  May be good to post on r/exjw and R/exMo (Mormon) on Reddit, too. I'm not sure if there's a Portuguese language exjw on Reddit but on You Tube on Saturdays there's a Spanish/ Portuguese language programme for ex cult members on "Rick Fearons" Six Screens of the Watchtower you could contact. The guy who runs it is called Efrain Rivera

  https://www.youtube.com/live/Ql9WAVttdxw?si=uYBIJedkzsrnl40q
  
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  Allow me to re-introduce myself

  by neworleanslady in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i haven’t been on here in years, had an old account but don’t remember the username or even the email to which it was attached.

  life, man.

  anywho, 13 years out (that feels wild), born in, fourth generation, elder’s daughter, baptized at ten, partially homeschooled (but apparently not enough lol), former convention stage performer/pioneer/foreign language congregation member, etc.

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  No..Sorry, Not having that.

  YOU are the "rightly disposed" one. (It doesn't add 'to be a Jehovah's witness' at the end!) What is it with these people?!! Imagine so carelessly trying to ruin someone's big day like that. His own father! Nuts when you really think about it!

  I'm very sorry about your cousin😞It's funny, although most negative feelings wane over time, when it comes to death - especially a tragic young death - the pain increases, imho. I think because it starts to hit hard, as your own life experiences pile up, just how much your loved one has missed. Just how much they've been denied. It's just something I've noticed. The older apostates get, the angrier they get about "JW Suicides", even when Watchtower barely enters their thoughts anymore, let alone their lives.

  Anyway....rant away! We're here to listen❤️
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  It was Fade to ex?😳🥺😢I used to talk online to him. Nice kid.

  NB TonusOH it was me that claimed Dijana's brother died from suicide, that's where you heard it from. I'm really sorry. I apologise to Dijana, too, if she happens to come across it. I remembered Lloyd blaming the org for Dijana's brothers death, I put 2 and 2 together and got 5.

  Either way he was very young when he died (19?) and it's clearly resulted in a lot of trauma within the family, understandably. Lloyd has played on that and I believe their vulnerability around his death is the reason he was able to live in the home of two active jehovahs witnesses whilst behaving so badly (as well as being able to produce apostate content).