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  UK BETHEL INAGUARATION 2024

  by raymond frantz in

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  2. friends

  https://youtu.be/oayukvpgoxw?si=g2020ba-xd2kytxi.

  this is the 20 min review audio of the 3 hour inaguaration of the british bethel that took place few days ago....

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  (KerryKing I mistakenly pressed down on your comment instead of up lol)

  Someone on the You tube comments said when you see the number of girls doing all the construction, allowing them to wear the trousers suddenly makes sense 😂
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  JW (?) murders wife and mother-in-law

  by Chevelle in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  according to several spanish ex-jw youtube channels, this is a jw family... but i'm still trying to confirm... .

  https://www.fox29.com/news/mom-daughter-found-stabbed-philadelphia-basement.

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  😳😳😳wow I didn't see that bit! It's actually quite terrifying when you realise how easily their doctrine can lead them down such dark paths....
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Diogenesister

  😂😂

  
  
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  JW (?) murders wife and mother-in-law

  by Chevelle in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  according to several spanish ex-jw youtube channels, this is a jw family... but i'm still trying to confirm... .

  https://www.fox29.com/news/mom-daughter-found-stabbed-philadelphia-basement.

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  Notty Is the idea that death absolves a person of their sin debt discussed often enough in JW circles that it could make an impression such that an unhinged JW might decide to kill their loved ones in order to "save" them?

  Absolutely. As Sea Breeze confirmed there was the horrific tragedy of a DF mother who took her own famillies' lives for fear of them being destroyed at Armageddon if they remained out of the org when it happened.

  There's also a hilarious case of a JW family who drank tea containing some type of hallucinogenic and, believing Armageddon had began, kidnapped their neighbours stark naked and supposedly in order to "rescue" them before being apprehended by police!!🤯😂
  https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/naked-kidnapping-canada-nisku-jehovahs-witness-neighbours-car-crash-a8555676.html
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  JW (?) murders wife and mother-in-law

  by Chevelle in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  according to several spanish ex-jw youtube channels, this is a jw family... but i'm still trying to confirm... .

  https://www.fox29.com/news/mom-daughter-found-stabbed-philadelphia-basement.

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  Diogenesister

  According to neighbours at least the murdered mother in law (and her husband) were Jehovah's witnesses with possibly the whole family.

  Here's a video including local news reports confirming: https://youtu.be/JIZmJ_ci3kA?si=kGX-8eOTAZqrBo4a
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  How it's done....I give you Wendy Renay😍

  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Diogenesister

  If you're a hot 21 year old super-model* with thick glossy hair half way down your back...red henna looks amazing😍

  .....not so much an overweight, over the hill bloke with a hooter the size of a Boeing Superfortress. And especially over a brassy blonde job

  *Or a hot super mum😜
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  Did God know adam and eve would sin?

  by gavindlt in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  to all those on this forum, i would love to know what your take on this vital question is..

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  There's a lot of confusion in my mind around the betrayal & conviction of Jesus. Some is related to my Jehovah's witness Bible "education" (or lack thereof. Does everyone remember when they first learnt regular Christians believed Jesus was God?!😂).

  Any answers much appreciated.

  1. Is it true priests couldn't execute (or condemn for execution) fellow Jews (so hence why they sent him to the Romans to dispose of).

  2. The role of Judas :
  

  (NB I hope I have this right. Please correct me if I don't) Jesus had to bear our sins and die for us on the cross in order for us to benefit from "grace".

  Therefore he had to be "handed over" to his persecutors by someone. As per question one, the priests couldn't execute him themselves, so they manipulated someone raised to have 100%faith and trust in them to not only do the right thing, but to have Gods blessing when they did it. Remember Judas Iscariot was a Jew.There was no thought of starting a new religion at that time. Even Jesus said that not one iota "will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished" Matt 5: 17-18.

  If in order that someone could accomplish Jesus' handing over to his enemies, that person would be forever condemned. So could you argue that Judas sacrificed his eternal life so that ours could be redeemed??

  From a moral standpoint this question has always really bothered me. Especially given that the Bible (and Jesus) chide the Apostles for their total lack of understanding of the situation the whole time!
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  NEW YORK TIMES 10TH MAY: HOW THE JWS COPY THE MORMONS

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/jctod7viuq0?si=bcffiejweq8k-rwn.

  skip to main content.

  jw updates.

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  =unlike the Mormons the Jehovahs Witnesses took to writing letters to strangers and the return address was always their Kingdom Hall and not their personal address.JWs are I'm fear of social media and that is not something that will change anytime soon)

  Hi phil,Thanks for the post. I received two letters from JWs with return addresses on them. One was clearly written by someone elderly and the other by a chap who described himself as disabled and wheelchair bound.

  I was conflicted as to whether to reply with "apostate" information simply because it was their home address. I figured maybe they weren't supposed to give their home address and I didn't want them to feel "cornered" or worry about me knowing where they lived if they decided to view me as satanic or something. 😬

  Was I right not to reply do u think?🤷‍♀️ I still have their letters....
  
  
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  UK Blood Scandal inquiry findings

  by ukpimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-69025640.

  how do you feel about this latest inquiry?

  although we expect jehovah's witnesses to use this opportunity to say "we were right all this time", it's nonetheless a historic blow to the nhs.

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  Cofyy Patients needing factor 8 were the most affected group. The WT permitted factor 8 even at the height of the contamination crisis. They have nothing to feel smug about.

  Yes I was giving Jehovah's witnesses factor 8 in the late 80s/early 90s