Diogenesister

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  Crisis of Conscience

  by The_Doctor10 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for those of you who haven't attempted to read or just haven't been able to obtain a copy of crisis of conscience by former gb member raymond franz, if you're interested, here's a link to an audio playlist reading of it:.

  playlist.

  this person has made it his goal to put into audio form raymond franz's book.

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  Diogenesister

  I've just finished teading it, so wish I could have met him and thanked him. Got a real lump in my throat when he talks about his guilt at leaving his wife childless. How dare they treat a man like that with such contempt - no civilized country decides who they want to convict and then goes looking for a crime with which to do so.
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  exJW Billboard is up.

  by cappytan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  waiting on higher resolution photos from wifibandit.. but here is the (redacted) notification from the company.

  apparently they take photos with a potato.. (the billboard directs folks to http://jwawake.com ).

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  Diogenesister

  Well happy
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  Faced with plummeting ratings JWbroadcasting tries a spin off combo show with 'Shark Week'

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  Diogenesister

  :) 😄😄😄😄
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  My introduction and confession

  by elderINewton in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well another big bad elder here just wanting to say sorry.. i'm sorry that so many were treated like crap, and shown that god's love is not to be found around jehovah's witnesses.

  i'm sorry that inadvertently i've likely taught many to judge and as such see that racism permeates every corner of the jw world, else why else would someone be of the world, or even inactive.

  i'm sorry i sat in on a jc, and voted to df.

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  Diogenesister

  Don't feel too bad. You did what you could, and now it's time to protect your own child. Also the very act of you leaving might help others to wake up too.

  Couldn't have put it better. I wish you all the very best and welcome.
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  So one of the elders kids told my son she is not going to college, but will pioneer. my son told her he is going to college.

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  he said she gave him a strange look.

  i then explained to my son that her father has no degree and barely provides for his family.

  he works like a fool, .

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  Diogenesister

  I HATE SHUNNING

  I HATE SHUNNERS

  OK RANT OVER, MOVE ALONG NOTHING TO SEE

  I HATE SHUNNING

  I HATE SHUNNERS

  WHOOPS, THAT JUST POPPED OUT
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  How the Watchtower Screws Up Your View of Scripture

  by CalebInFloroda in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  while i do not argue the stand of atheism (because as a jew i find it totally logical and acceptable), i have noticed that there are odd carryover preconceptions about scripture that some hold as axiomatic about the bible (at least the hebrew texts), misconceptions that have nothing to do with the jewish scriptures themselves.. so regardless of what you may think of scripture, whether you believe it is of g-d or not, i thought some of you might enjoy a reference to see how much the watchtower teaching on scripture might still be influencing the conclusions you are making today...at least about the tanakh.

  jews read their texts acknowledging the following:.

  1. no scriptural concept of original sin.

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  Diogenesister

  Re the name of God thing, isn't davening incredibly repetative ?
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  How the Watchtower Screws Up Your View of Scripture

  by CalebInFloroda in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  while i do not argue the stand of atheism (because as a jew i find it totally logical and acceptable), i have noticed that there are odd carryover preconceptions about scripture that some hold as axiomatic about the bible (at least the hebrew texts), misconceptions that have nothing to do with the jewish scriptures themselves.. so regardless of what you may think of scripture, whether you believe it is of g-d or not, i thought some of you might enjoy a reference to see how much the watchtower teaching on scripture might still be influencing the conclusions you are making today...at least about the tanakh.

  jews read their texts acknowledging the following:.

  1. no scriptural concept of original sin.

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  Diogenesister

  Calebinflorida, thank you so much for this. Coming from a 'hebrist' religon , one happy hangover of my departure was my deep interest in Judaism. Whilst the little I know has made me realize the little I know, if you look at my posts I always recommend confused Christians study up on Judaism as it staggers me how ignorant we are on the belief system Jesus of Nazereth himself adhered to.

  You mention the public nature (or theophany)in judaism ie Jews dont have to take the word of another, that God reveiled himself to the whole nation who stood at the ft. of Mt.Sinai. I am aware of this tenet in Jusaism. However, whether it is the translation of the scriptures Christians' use, this event never seemed obvious to me. Is it indeed a different scripture ( the Septiguint ??) Or am I too much of a bozo to find it?
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  What if Satan repent

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  satan, god i'm sorry for my misdeed, will you forgive me.

  tell satan.

  satan comes.

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  Diogenesister

  ...Swine...turns states evidence and leaves the rest of us in the dock...lookin' at the maximum sentence!
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  Just an introduction

  by Israel Ricky Gonzales in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just wanted to say hello since i am new to this forum.

  allow myself to introduce myself.

  lol.

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  Diogenesister

  For the sake of your kids try to keep together, sadly its not for the usual reasons kids need 2 parents - yours dont have that luxury- its simply that they stand more chance of escaping brainwashing with you living with them. Its awful because YOU are someone's child and deserve love and happiness in your marriage too, I feel like you will be sacrificing that to give them the best chance of freedom from a cult.
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  Never give up on those stuck in the org

  by Diogenesister in

  1. social
  2. family

  hi, i know posting links here is not always popular and appologies if you've seen this but i heartily recommend reading this fantastic bio.

  i guess what you'll take from it is to never give up on anyone stuck in a cult and also an examle of real unconditional love in this case 33 years of rejection, patiently waiting until their daughter needed them.

  enjoy.

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  Diogenesister

  Hi, I know posting links here is not always popular and appologies if you've seen this but I heartily recommend reading this fantastic bio. I guess what you'll take from it is to never give up on anyone stuck in a cult and also an examle of REAL unconditional love in this case 33 years of rejection, patiently waiting until their daughter needed them. Enjoy. http://avoidjw.org/2015/06/happy-fathers-day/