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  " --is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses"

  by prologos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am too old understand the rc exchanges, but i can think of this scenario:.

  a brother writes a letter that he can not continue support the organisation, congregation because of the spasm between new and old light*, will stop service.

  * within a short time a brother is found to be a serial child rapist and because of the publicity,- disfellowshipped .

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  Dubstepped A few do know for sure, as we wrote goodbye letters to family.

  That sentance, right there, speaks volumes about the so-called christian org that forced you to wright it. Goodbye??Goodbye!
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  Look out for a new congregation position for elders wives: Helper to the Elders

  by Splash in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  geoffrey jackson spent 20 minutes accepting the position that it is not scripturally prohibited for women to be used in the investigation process, although probably not the jc itself (he said he'd check the scriptures on that bit, but we can guess the outcome).. look out for the wives of elders jostling for and gaining these positions.

  there will be no better opportunity for gossip mongers to raise their status in the congregation than being officially involved in the intimate private business of others in the congregation.. think of the power they will have in advising the elders on a jc if she thinks the victim is credible, with her opinion, bias and embellishments on the details.

  i wouldn't fancy the chances of a victim who has previously fallen out with one of these 'helpers'.. whatever next, sisters handling microphones??!

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  thread, but please try to show a little bit of respect for women! There are many ladies who are eminently capable of handling a role like this in an honest, dignified manner. (I should know, I am one of them.) I am a little bit offended by these assertions that there are no sincere, caring sisters who genuinely care for victims of abuse and could provide a better environment for victims to raise their concerns than in the elders' club. You all sound like the GB, writing off sisters as incapable because they are gossip-mongering, self-important gobshites who care only about themselves and appearances. Little bit offensive.

  The first question to be asked of a victim should be along these lines: "As far as you know, are you the only person who has witnessed this person's vile behaviour?" As the answer will usually be affirmative, it should be gently explained that at the present time, the congregation does not have any means to do anything about it. The victim might then be strongly and actively encouraged to engage with the secular authorities as soon as possible so that the perp's vile behaviour can be stopped, investigated and prosecuted. The victim could be gently and carefully made aware that these predators rarely desist from their disgusting activities once they have crossed the line and touched a child inappropriately (many victims don't really realise the extent of predatory behaviour of abusers and think they are the only one affected.)

  Without extensive Child Protection and counselling training, NO Jdub should be giving a forum for victims to talk about their concerns. Because the wrong questions, or leading questions, could contaminate the evidence and hinder the authorities' investigations. And as we have seen in the ARC, scriptural 'comfort' is easily misconstrued by a traumatised victim. Every child-abuse disclosure should be immediately referred to the appropriate authorities. If spiritual help is required or requested, it should be noted that it has to be put on hold until the victim has been strengthened by being believed by the authorities and receiving counselling to ease some of the trauma they have suffered.

  IMHO

  Agreed 100%

  1) All sexual assault cases child, woman OR man, let's remember this can happen to men and boys, to be immediately reported and victim steered toward professionals, all kangeroo courts (JC's) on hold until secular authorities have dealt with it.As Listlesswitness correctly states any interference by the JW's can interfere with the investigation /outcome adversely

  2) I have/do know intelligent, sensitive and genuine sisters who would not dream of breaking confidentiality. To suggest otherwise is extremely demeaning to women. While I accept that has not been the experience of many, I would suggest that when adults are treated like imbeciles they will behave like imbeciles. This is what happens to many JW women who are barred from secular education, family and spiritual responsibility, thus kept in a state of permenant infantilism to an even greater extent than the men.

  Headship has NOT stood the test of time, it is repeatedly taken advantage of as the RC proves. In the ideal JW world, women should go from their fathers' domination go their husbans with no secular education in between, Taliban anyone????
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  Do video games cause bad behaviour in children?

  by The Rebel in

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  2. friends

  my boy is 10 and has got very interested in pocamon cards.

  ( a game way to complicated for me to understand) but i've also noticed it's linked to a computer game, which seems harmless enough but i also noticed advertisements for more violent games appear.. i would value people's opinion on whether, you think video games cause bad behaviour in kids.

  i should mention my kid says i limit his time on these games, much more than other children's parents, and i was thinking of reevaluating that rule.. thanks.. the rebel..

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  Sorry, bang on wtwizard, couldn't agree more with the above
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  Do video games cause bad behaviour in children?

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
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  my boy is 10 and has got very interested in pocamon cards.

  ( a game way to complicated for me to understand) but i've also noticed it's linked to a computer game, which seems harmless enough but i also noticed advertisements for more violent games appear.. i would value people's opinion on whether, you think video games cause bad behaviour in kids.

  i should mention my kid says i limit his time on these games, much more than other children's parents, and i was thinking of reevaluating that rule.. thanks.. the rebel..

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  Not to mention, if children can't even enjoy an ice cream cone without being guilty, how much more they shouldn't enjoy a game of Pokemon?
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  Governing Body, Geoffrey Jackson - Child Sexual Abuse Whitin Jehovah's Witnesses, Not Apostate Lies

  by C0ntr013r in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  a little taste for everyone who could not watch the hearing live .

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvypugzk59o&feature=youtu.be.

  the rest is coming soon!.

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  Diogenesister

  Many thanks COntrO13r for all your hard work from those who fell asleep half way through in england!😳Zzzzz
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  Geoffrey Jackson - Royal Commission Live Hearing Now!

  by LostinJapan in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

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  https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

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  Sparrowdown The whole scream rape is such a crock of shit.

  It is quite normal for someone in shock to freeze and be unable to scream.

  I know when I was walking home in the dark late from work a guy jumped out from a bush beside me (I think he was taking a leak) I was terrified, I tried to scream but no sound came out, my voicebox constricted (he did scream!)
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  Geoffrey Jackson - Royal Commission Live Hearing Now!

  by LostinJapan in

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  2. child-abuse

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  https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

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  Truthseeker Okay, my family officially thinks I'm nuts after watching me scream at my iPod followed by excessive head nodding and laughter!!

  Ditto!!

  Deborah the Isrealite judge

  Circumstantial evidence for adultary ok so why not child sexual assult (also mate unbeliever confession to christian mate acceptable for scriptual divorce

  Acceptable for jw to use corporal punishment

  ?????Innapropriate to have to give sex assault details to untrained ?salacious elders even in letter

  HERD HERD HERD HERD HERD HERD. F#@ F@*&## SAKE!!!!
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  GB member Geoffrey Jackson is lying!

  by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  okay, i know the royal commission hasn't started yet.

  but i'm confident enough that he will be telling some whoppers.

  so i thought i'd be the first to get a thread started for something that will begin... very soon now!.

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  Diogenesister

  If the GB gets something wrong in their interpretation they rely on the brothers to not obey them and make the GB aware of their "mistake"...

  Wow.,,just..,wow

  Like 607 perhaps??????
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  Guys help me out, no isrealite women judges?????since when

  by Diogenesister in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  guys what the hell is going on, how can jackson say there were no isrealite women judges!!!

  !how many jewish women judges are there?cdidnt maclellan check up om that one, would have thought he'd know!

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  caleb: do you know about when he said that?

  About half an hour ago
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  Guardians of the Doctrine... Illustrated

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  Diogenesister

  Wicked. Was waiting for that😄😄😄😄😄