Posts by Diogenesister

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Why JWs record and report time?

by ThinkerBelle in

okay, so yes, i'm a born-in, but this point has always baffled me (and i guess i never bothered to research or ask).

what is the purpose of counting time in service?

when was it started and why?

Diogenesister

Interesting question though thinkerbelle, does anyone know when reporting time started or has it always been?

As finkie baby says, it is a publishing house after all.

Love your handle thinkerbelle btw!

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Jersey City Assembly Hall Memories

by LexIsFree in

so i was watching clips from the annual meeting.

i must say i do miss the jersey city assembly hall.

i loved going to that place as a kid.

Diogenesister

Dunedain I've really enjoyed that, you totally took me there!👍

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Executed Jehovah's Witness under Hitler were more Christian than Jdubs

by suavojr in

jw
friends

has anyone noticed how the phraseology of this letter is so far away from todays jw theology and idioms used?

do you notice what word is missing?

how would any of us be viewed in the congregations if we were to speak or write this way?

Diogenesister

oh my word that poor boy, poor generation in fact. If ever anyone touched jehovah's eyeball it was the nazis surely.

I didn't know german boys could be executed for refusing to bear arms.

Heartbreaking. Image being the poor parent who read such a letter.

Edited to add, certainly sounds like a regular Christian.

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Just found out their about to baptise my 14 year old boy.

by Crazyguy in

there doing this right under my nose but i just found out.

not sure what to do but would like your help on getting me wt information on my headship role and how they shouldn't be doing this with out my permission.

also would like some help on showing my son the ramifications on what happens to someone when they get baptized and how they'll expect him to treat me.

Diogenesister

If you are still considered a witness they will have to listen to you if you say he's not mature enough to make the decision & that you have prayed about it

If they don't you need to bring out the big guns with your wife & threaten to ban him from meetings until his is 18, in any legal action she wouldn't stand a chance - the legal system & social services don't like cults

Ask his mother why she is setting him up for her to have to shun him at some point because it will happen, kids these days will find out the truth at some point in their lives

Does he appreciate that the WTS frowns on people marrying too young, fearing they may not be mature enough to enter into a lifelong relationship, which is to be taken very seriously??

Thats a laugh tho', I have never known a bunch of people who get married so dang redneck young (we all know why).

Most other groups would never allow it fullstop not just moan about it, its why witnesses have such high divorce rates considering their values

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Headline: "Islamic Invasion: Europe now scrambles for guns." How true is this?

by cappytan in

jw
friends

a year to a year and a half ago, i would have taken this article at face value and believed it.. now, i realize this article comes from a dubious source.

world news daily has a die-hard right-wing bias.

so, in an effort to get real information, i'm asking my european exjw's, is this article all true?

Diogenesister

Thanks disposable hero of hypocracy, I thought everyone on this forum had gone nuts 👍

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'Seek the Kingdom First' Economics

by Tornintwo in

jw
friends

has anyone else's family finances been victim to the 'seek the kingdom first' economic policy?.

for years, my husband and i have had our own business, my husband is not the most proactive guy, prefers to go in field service than to work, but he has always encouraged me to 'rely on jehovah and all these other things will be added to you', 'seek the kingdom first' etc etc.

there have been times, such as when i was heavily pregnant and we lost a big deal, that i have been begging jehovah on hands and knees to honour that promise, wondering why he wasn't helping us.

Diogenesister

Ok.I can totally relate but I was wracking my brains for some useful advice.

What I was thinking was that as you rightly said what has got you this far is your hard work, brains & family help. As you continue baring most of the load and pull through whatever issues arise hubby will no doubt put that down to Jehovah too.

The only thing I could think of was to find a decent financial advisor of some kind ( the free kind that come with your bank or better yet a paid proffessional if u can afford it) and put your cards on the table. Tell them everything. The reason you are in this situation, that your husband can be relied on to a limited extent only and what you want.

See what they can come up with, a life plan if you like.

I really wish you all the best, beautiful and talented, you go girl!

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Was Jesus a hypocrite?

by James Mixon in

jesus spoke of loving your enemy, matt.5:43, luke 6:26, but look what is said in.

mark 16:51,16 "go preach but who ever does not believe his ass will be set on fire".. i don't think that is good news.

hell if that is love, what the hell is hate.

Diogenesister

Better to get thy (ASS) CHEEK slapped by the devil than set ablaze by Jesus!

Nb And what is wrong with being a dog, pray tell?!!

Edit: canine-ism! Or is that Canaan -ism??!!

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Was Jesus a hypocrite?

by James Mixon in

jesus spoke of loving your enemy, matt.5:43, luke 6:26, but look what is said in.

mark 16:51,16 "go preach but who ever does not believe his ass will be set on fire".. i don't think that is good news.

hell if that is love, what the hell is hate.

Diogenesister

Ahem....correction, their ASS would be set ablaze. Hardly fair to our four legged friend now is it?

It always seems to me that the animal world has suffered horribly for our mistakes according to Biblical convention.

As to Jesus being a hypocrite, we don't actually know that he said the stuff about the ass, fig tree, sword etc Who knows? A lot of the more extreme stuff, certainly against women, was said to be added in the 4th century by mysoganist monks jealous of the unusual power women in the early Christian church wielded.

Sorry. Gone off topic a bit.

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My First Birthday.....

by The Marvster in

i awoken today and realised immidiately i'm 44 today... and after 3 years of being out, decided to acknowledge my birthday.... i'm off out to treat myself to a big hearty breakfast with cup of tea in the local weatherspoon's by the massive pond full of weird bird-life, later today i'm giving myself a gift of a 90 minute relaxation session in a float tank down by canary wharf in london.... only really have 2 close friends (it's a slow process trusting people agian) and they probably won't be able to see me today, but i'm sure i'll have a belated surprise from them both.... the first thing i did when i remembered was to rush to the computer, connect to the web and put on stevie wonder's 'happy birthday', as i listen to it, tears stream down my face... all those years of my life stolen ' but..... i'm free....'.

Diogenesister

You know it doesn't make much sense
There ought to be a law against
Anyone who takes offense
At a day in your celebration
Cause we all know in our minds
That there ought to be a time
That we can set aside
To show just how much we love you
Happy birthday!!!!!!!🎉🎊🎁🍻🍹🍷

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Update on Australian Royal Commission - Proposed Redress

by Pants of Righteousness in

apologies if this has been posted previously, but this news item has appeared today regarding the proposed redress for abuse victims following the australian royal commission:.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-27/labor-pledges-payments-for-sex-abuse-survivors/6886864.

what's interesting is that in january it was proposed that the federal government contribute almost half of an estimated $4.3 billion redress scheme.

Diogenesister

Only problem is, the witnesses will take that action as proof of "satan's people touching Jehovah's eyeball" and sit there waiting for the Big A to happen!

Good. Because it wont.