Posts by Diogenesister

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Suicide or Real Freedom? - My Story As One Of Jehovah's Witnesses

by dubstepped in

"sometimes i think the only thing i could do that wouldn't upset someone would be to kill myself.".

those were the frustrated words of my friend as we stood out in his large yard in the country, just about to enjoy a nice bonfire on a beautiful night.

what was it that could have been a lesser evil than killing himself?

Diogenesister

Thank you so much Dubstepped, I just saw my therapist but I didn't want to show her till I heard from you, I will email it to her with a message as she knows I wanted her to see it. It's hard for people who don't know the religon to get a sense of just how much scrutiny you are under & how much you deem yourself unworthy no matter what you do.

Your piece is marvellous, it taught me about feelings I could not identify in me as focusing on self knowledge & self care is frowned on by the WT unless its to boost 'productivity'.xxx anna

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Are Worshipers of God following God`s will or mans will.in this 21st Century

by smiddy in

according to the bible humans have lived on this earth about 6000 years according to j.w,`s interpretation.. in the last couple of centuries , and in particular this last century , knowledge and wisdom has abounded in many domains .

so in one sense humans have grown from being a child to an adult ,we , as a species have come of age .we have put men on the moon ,12 so far ,, over six missions , we have sent probes into outer space , voyagers i and 2 , sent in the 1970`s , that have now gone outside our galaxy , further than 100 times the distance from earth to the sun and it is still sending back signals to earth.yet jehovah was concerned that men were building a tower thousands of years ago that would be dwarfed by the size of buildings that have gone up these past centuries,?

so my question is : why hasn`t the almighty god progressed at the same rate as his creations ?

Diogenesister

For years I thought the following was the raving of paranoid left wing conspiracy theorists, but now after thorough research I know the witnesses are right

Religon is nothing but a snare & racket

It is a way to control the masses

All ancient jumbled human mythology

It IS time for us to grow up & live superstition free lives , the fourth age?

How I yearn to see it! I have educated my kids to think for themselves - maybe they will be the real golden generation who will see mankind mature & throw off the shakles of superstitious thought

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Little Thought for Lurkers, oringinal sin?

by Diogenesister in

just one little thought....adam & eve ate the fruit from the tree "of the knowledge of good & evil".

so..in other words, before they ate they did not know right from wrong...hmmmm so how can you blame someone who does not know right from wrong?.

for a crime to take place in human law you must have the act - 'actus reus' - and the guilty mind or 'mens rea' as it is termed.

Diogenesister

ha hadark knight you desparado, you counted them!!Here have one on me!🍻

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Suicide or Real Freedom? - My Story As One Of Jehovah's Witnesses

by dubstepped in

"sometimes i think the only thing i could do that wouldn't upset someone would be to kill myself.".

those were the frustrated words of my friend as we stood out in his large yard in the country, just about to enjoy a nice bonfire on a beautiful night.

what was it that could have been a lesser evil than killing himself?

Diogenesister

wow, just wow.

Thank you so much for posting, the effort that you made for us all...I am definately going to look up the narcassistic family book, I really relate to the over sensative child stuff, in fact, if it's ok I would like to show my therapist your post as you have put so much into words I want to express but can't. In fact you have really opened my eyes to some of my own behaviours..

You guys are so inspirational, I wish you both much love & luck..Thank you again💕❤❤

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Little Thought for Lurkers, oringinal sin?

by Diogenesister in

just one little thought....adam & eve ate the fruit from the tree "of the knowledge of good & evil".

so..in other words, before they ate they did not know right from wrong...hmmmm so how can you blame someone who does not know right from wrong?.

for a crime to take place in human law you must have the act - 'actus reus' - and the guilty mind or 'mens rea' as it is termed.

Diogenesister

Just one little thought....adam & eve ate the fruit from the tree "of the knowledge of good & evil"

so..in other words, before they ate they did not know right from wrong...hmmmm so how can you blame someone who does not know right from wrong?

For a crime to take place in human law you must have the act - 'actus reus' - and the guilty mind or 'mens rea' as it is termed. No guilty mind, no crime, despite the act having taken place, as in the case of a young child for example.

How could they have a guilty mind before they knew right from wrong.

Surely we humans cannot be more just than God, can we?!!

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Does this sound like a man who is inspired by God?

by Coded Logic in

absolutely disgusting!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqzc2m8_mba.

Diogenesister

HaHaHa ...I was seething when I first "Herd" that..funny how he uses scientists stats but forgets to mention that hat size & IQ are not even co related ...now I do think it's great for faders who are forced to go in service..

Do show it to householders!

btw StephaneLaliberte I do think it is hate speach, combined with toni morris iii homo tight pants rage someone in the US should report it to a womens rights group & get their lawyers on the case...this dude is a nutter

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Stop the war

by Diogenesister in

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=d9bk76nb6bk please watch this link to a really great american video which features a touching clip of a dad trying to treasure & explain things to his son as they are both caught up in the paris attacks.

it starts with an interview with a muslim victim of the attacks and ends with wise words on the effects of war on kids everywhere , including american sanctioned drone strikes in syria.

its about 10 mins long..

Diogenesister

Incidentally, it is not superstition alone which provides the perfect petri dish for manipulation. Any emotion is capable of allowing one to be manipulated - even love. Not allowing our emotions to dictate our behaviour but instead allowing positive emotions to enhance clear thinking is key. If humans are to progress to the next level of psychological evolution, we HAVE to stop letting our emotions preside over our thought process and make an earnest effort to think critically.

Just my two cents.

Secretslaveclass Fantastic as always, we are still so primative in our thinking I do agree fully we need to rid the world of superstitious belief systems. thank you everyone for these interesting & informative posts,

Kaik you are right, my post was driven b y emotional reaction to the kid. Thank you for pulling me up on that👍

Think about how Obama won't say "Islam extremism" just "violent extremism". That is burying your head in the sand. Protecting the very root of the evil.

So true Freemindfade

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Something nice, non-jw

by FadeToBlack in

i was out with my 4 dogs last night around 10:30 under a bright moon.

it was frosty (-4 c).

i heard some noise in the field behind my house (my backyard is a national forest).

Diogenesister

Polar bears hunt humans, I think they are the only animal that sees us food. My friends aunt had to shoot one once, it was way back in the 50's. She was alone in a smallish hut - was out with engineer husband who was away. Unfortunately it got wind of her and started taking her home apart. Once they have you that's it, they will keep going until they get you, she had no choice. It's funny when you see this sweet little old lady...she feels real regret but lived there for many years and knew she had no chance they are trully lethal.

We have foxes in our garden, they are everwhere in london and dont have to hunt there is so much in the trash! I have seen them carrying shopping bags in their mouths happily trotting home...

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Potted history of the Watchtower by SM McRoberts

by Diogenesister in

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this is an extract of the latest post from the blog " rational compassionate living" by ex jw sm mcroberts.

i think it's an excellent compressed history of earth according to the watchtower, link to the rest is here enjoy & do check out the rest!.

"about 6,000 years ago the god jehovah decided to create adam.

Diogenesister

This is an extract of the latest post from the blog " Rational Compassionate Living" by ex JW SM McRoberts. I think it's an excellent compressed history of earth according to the Watchtower, link to the rest is Here enjoy & do check out the rest!

"About 6,000 years ago the god Jehovah decided to create Adam. As an afterthought he also “built” Eve. But, before knowing right from wrong, these two foolish people disobeyed Jehovah (after Eve had listened to a talking serpent.) So Jehovah put the wicked fallen angel Satan in charge of them and all of the Earth and stepped out of the spotlight for about 4,000 years — except to drown nearly everyone and everything on one occasion; stage a bloody puppet-show with Pharaoh and Moses; help out with some Israeli wars; and order himself up a whole lot of burnt animals to savor the smell of."

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An Atheist Visits A Kingdom Hall

by Bangalore in

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http://nerdinthebrain.com/2015/01/25/why-i-spent-my-morning-in-a-kingdom-hall-partying-with-jehovahs-witnesses/.

he seems to have quite a positive view of jw's.. bangalore.

Diogenesister

Nerd on the brain, I have not looked at your blog btw, but I will say that what attracted me to this site was how freaking hilarious it is most of the time, there are some well funny people in the ex dub world, this site included.

For my money, they are also some of the most compassionate people I've ever known too, which is why I think the JW judgementalism rancours so much with them, one of the many reasons they could not continue to associate.

But if I have to pick the one outstanding reason ex JW's leave the org it can be summed up in two words - the INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY of the Watchtower society.

On a personal note we also like to support our members through some unbelieveable hardships, so Label licker 🌷hope you're ok kiddo, we are all here for you, this newb doesn't know the runnin's😊