Posts by Diogenesister

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Got in a bad wreck.....uuugh

by brandnew in

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just happy to be alive....can barely move ☺.. a girl who just got her license , and a new suv....thought it might be cool to pass the person in front of her....at a curve......on a two way road!!!!!😠😠😠.

very mad puppy.

Diogenesister

" You should see the other guy!!"

Glad the damage is to your rides body and not yours!

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I am leaving the JW's . I am alone and scared. Advice and help needed please

by scared and lonely in

i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.

i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.

i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.

Diogenesister

Wingcommander Honestly, that whole whiny, begging for money on the first page is what instantly put me off about you. We've got Stephen Lett and the GB putting up videos on JW Broadcasting begging for more of our relatives and friends money, fleecing them of their hard-earned (because of being denied an education from these same bastards!), savings, any retirement or inheritance, etc.......and now YOU want some too????

Doh!! He's one of the guys being fleeced , unless of course he's a GB member...

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I am leaving the JW's . I am alone and scared. Advice and help needed please

by scared and lonely in

i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.

i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.

i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.

Diogenesister

Skiddadle And if you are legit and recieve outside help, when you're back on your feet, pay it forward and help others. (You know, the worldly ones:) there's gonna be a mass exit of jw's from .u.k. if this Goddard inquiry is anything like the australian one and these people will need help too. (It's already started and i fear that the councilling services in uk need to start getting up to date on the psychological aspects of this niche group before it's too late. I don't want to see more lives being lost!)

Thanks so much for your post Skiddadle...perfect advice for a UK resident.I fully agree with the above too...its really hard to find a therapist who understands in the UK at least. ( not to derail the thread)Do you really think there's a possibility idiots may get heavy with JWs?? I know vigilante stuff has happened in the past.

TO THE NUTASS I appreciate your an oldtimer who's seen people get done over ( but who's gonna get my money anyway?? Mr Tesco or Mr MacDonald's orMrs Karen Milan?? Let it go to the plebs I say!!) Anyway, what I wanted to say was we Brits ARE mollycoddled... Let alone a live at home JW dynasty Prince who became a young elder due to family. Surely you can visualize that? We never have to worry about money, health education hell even somewhere to live..its all free! Its true we don't have the stresses you guys have BUT neither do we have the drive to better ourselves NOR the rewards when we do. I apologize for calling you subhuman I appreciate you have helped exJWs for a long time. I think this guy has all the symptoms of being a typical JW British boy ( JW men ain't macho in the UK..the whole headship thing is a bit more hush hush over here)

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Medical Tourism and Medi-Coin - investing in bloodless medicine

by OrphanCrow in

meet mr. michael columbus - a jehovah's witness who has a personal financial interest in keeping the watchtower's noblood doctrine alive and kicking.. .

michael j. columbus - jehovah's witness extraordinaire.. linkedin profile.. summary of columbus' accomplishments:.

for more than 30 years i have been involved in blood management.

Diogenesister

LoL under the radar!!!!

Orphan Crow my blood pressure rises every time I read one of your posts....but I'm grateful all the same.

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Where are the EXJW Feminist Philosophers?

by Luther bertrand in

i am working, more in the planning stages, where i am going to offer a commentary on the caleb and sophia cartoons that the org puts out.

i noticed a heavily patriarchal bent to the narrative that these cartoons offer.

i would really enjoy working with someone who has an academic background in feminist philosophy, or at least someone knowledgeable.

Diogenesister

he main point I'd like to make is that the women who prefer patriarchal systems, e.g. this follower of Deida, likely lives in the West. In other words, it wasn't the patriarchal system or nothing, she could choose which one best suited her. If it didn't work out, she could always go back to the modern system of equality.

Agreed..

Germaine Greer once argued that attempts to outlaw genital mutilation amounted to "an attack on cultural identity" (http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/apr/21/casualty-was-right-female-genital-mutilation).

I don't know how to express how miserable this makes me..

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I am leaving the JW's . I am alone and scared. Advice and help needed please

by scared and lonely in

i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.

i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.

i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.

Diogenesister

Cofty mate, read again jookbeards response I'm afraid he's letting the side down by playing to the worse in our Ape hierarchy loving social instincts by ganging up with who he sees as the major players or old timers to humiliate this newb.

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I am leaving the JW's . I am alone and scared. Advice and help needed please

by scared and lonely in

i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.

i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.

i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.

Diogenesister

Scared, I recommend you check out exjwreddit and I PROMISE you won't get the ignorant and nasty responses you got from Sparrowdownand that excuse for a human being Nathanutass I don't know what issues those two have but they obviously ain't getting any.

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JWs the kings of plagiarism

by Hecce in

the wt used to be rich for the quality of their public speakers, at the top of the ladder were the dos motivating the brothers on a weekly basis.

some of them used very folksy experiences related to the brothers as motivational tools, when you left the convention those experiences were the talk of the town.

i remember one very well qualified brother serving as do that was constantly using those sort of experiences as part of his arsenal, at one time he related one about a sister that new that she was going to die soon and while meeting with the family and brothers for final preparations she requested to be buried with a fork in her hand.

Diogenesister

A well-meaning Christian sister said to the mother: “It’s too bad you have failed at child training.”

Ha ha ha! "A well meaning Christian sister"... If that's their standard of "well meaning"Christian love they are more delusional than I thought!!

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Where are the EXJW Feminist Philosophers?

by Luther bertrand in

i am working, more in the planning stages, where i am going to offer a commentary on the caleb and sophia cartoons that the org puts out.

i noticed a heavily patriarchal bent to the narrative that these cartoons offer.

i would really enjoy working with someone who has an academic background in feminist philosophy, or at least someone knowledgeable.

Diogenesister

In my experience the only women who " preferred " the patriarchal system of the JW's were strong women with reasonable husbands living out the fantasy of the temporary, imperfect structure only instituted as a buffer against the chaos of a wicked system. "Never intended by Jehovah "is the mantra of many intelligent JW women who obediently " endures all things" as she awaits paradise and the perfect equality women and men were intended to have. Except, of course, she endures nothing at all, wearing the pants at home as she does, she wears her skirts with her Godly devotion at the Kingdom Hall.

Funnily enough you never hear the put upon, bullied wives of men who enforce their spiritual " headship"voice their intention to take refuge in Jehovah's loving arrangement. They bite their lip and lower their eyes when the talk at the lecturn praises the " arrangement" as the loving port in a " worldly storm".

Has anyone seen " Elizabethan farm"? Historians live and work as the name suggests " in character" for a year. Its a novelty, no doubt, as the headship thing is for converts - until they are in too deep and Armageddon hasn't arrived when it becomes just another aspect of JWism that isn't pleasant to dwell on too much.

I think we need to allow for the experience that some women do genuinely prefer a patriarchal system. They don't just appear to they actually do (although I even doubt the usefulness of such a distinction) Patriarchy has benefits for women as well as drawbacks. It provides clear rules and roles whereas equality can be more chaotic and uncertain. It can provide security whereas equality can involve precariousness. Some women as well as men are always going to be attracted to that, just as fascism holds an appeal for some people especially in uncertain times.

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"You don't go to church in a Kingdom Hall"

by stephanie61092 in

"you don't go to church in a kingdom hall" was stated during the public talk yesterday.

the speaker then elaborated that "people who go to church, go to fulfill a spiritual obligation.

coming to the kingdom hall is coming to learn.

Diogenesister

Er...so they are saying spirituality has nothing to do with what happens at a KH???

Come to be programmed and leave your love for your fellows - your sociability with your brothers, and your spiritual need at the door.