Jimmy, now that you understand you can report this to the police if you want, take a moment to consider the reproach that would bring on Jehovah's name."
Zoos you got it.
Diogenesister
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Elders School 2017: New instructions to handle sexual abuses?
by sp74bb inan informant in spanish forum, active elder in a congregation in madrid (spain) has posted new info regarding elders school 2017. important changes are to be done for "child" or sexual abuses.
https://abusostj.vbulletin.net/forum/main-forum/audiencias-judiciales/5506-escuela-de-ancianos-2017.
doing a summary:.
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Elders School 2017: New instructions to handle sexual abuses?
by sp74bb inan informant in spanish forum, active elder in a congregation in madrid (spain) has posted new info regarding elders school 2017. important changes are to be done for "child" or sexual abuses.
https://abusostj.vbulletin.net/forum/main-forum/audiencias-judiciales/5506-escuela-de-ancianos-2017.
doing a summary:.
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Diogenesister
Keinlezard It look like bulgaria and blood policies .. jw are not "disfellowed" by Organisation, but if they accept blood they disfellow themself from Organisation.
Keinlezard You hit the nail on the head. Its exactly a case of appearing to comply with the letter of EU law whilst totally ignoring the spirit of the law.
Talk about Pharisee's.
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The JW governing body are all overweight, creepy looking little men
by jambon1 inhaving seen a few of these tv productions and some youtube clips of their assembly parts, how can jehovah's witnesses really take these silly little men seriously?.
you take one look at them; their overweight, fat little bodies.
their entirely shabby, overhanging suits.
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Cold steel What would you think of an aging apostle Peter, for example? A fisherman? Or the apostle Paul, a zealous Jew turned Christian? We probably would be disillusioned a bit, no?
You make a very good point, of course, cold steel. The apostle Peter was of course a fisherman, a pretty Labour intensive job I would think, with a great diet so I am guessing he'd at least be a very slimline, probably muscular or wiry guy! As for Paul, although he's always portrayed as bald and aging yet again I'd imagine he'd be incredibly toned with all his travells and obviously his intellect and drive would be pretty attractive qualities.
I can't imagine either being too concerned with appearance ( no perfectly ironed toga's and pinky rings) which I personally find very attractive in a man.
My husband told me there is one supposed description of Jesus that (contrary to Watchtower's George Clooney looking Jesus types) has him as a four foot something hunchback....I will ask him where this description is found, unless you guys know?
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My wife and I are hooked on European series screening on SBS TV
by smiddy inwhether they be norwegian ,danish ,french or whatever , having sub-titles doesnt bother us as their usually is a mix of english dialogue as well.. some examples : tracked ,the tunnell ,the bridge ,dicte ,borgen ,just to name a few.another one i`m watching now about the middle east the name just escapes right now .. anybody else watching these shows ?.
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Always loved European films since my teen years. I would love to see the original "Humans". When my son was 9 he and I got hooked on a Norwegian political drama, female lead, but the name escapes me. How can I get this channel as it sounds right up my street, is it a sky thing?
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OK who threw the stink bomb in here?
by Thisismein1972 income on a believer, everyone knows it was you so own up to it and teacher will not be cross!.
this is exactly what seems to be happening, a believer runs in drops the stink bomb and runs out again...only to pear around the door when he/she deems it safe to do so.
😅😅😅.
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A Believer did you know a woman came up with the idea, and taught, that the "faithful and discreet slave" applied to a person ( now persons)??
Did you you know that another woman came up with the religion from which Jehovahs Witnesses are descended? Without her teaching there would be no JW's.
Now, they've decided women cannot teach...but they wouldn't exist in this form had they not.
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Vigil held for Burney man who died after being set on fire
by no password invigil help for burney man who died after being set on fire.
community members shared their memories of wicks, a member of the jehovah's witness hall in burney.
many of them remember him from his post at the shell station, where he worked along with his wife.
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Oh Lord no. This is horrific. This is one of those instances when this pour souls last minutes were made possibly more bearable by his beliefs. Too horrific to contemplate for us.
I disagree that whoever did it was a mental case in the true sense of the word, surely a crazy would have been found...as they would have no motive to hide it. Just my thoughts
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Questions for the Biblical God
by Saethydd ini consider myself an agnostic, i feel no sense of certainty that there is a single all-powerful creator who made the entire universe, and yet i must acknowledge that the universe is a large place that is filled with much beauty so the possibility of an intelligent mind being behind it is certainly there.
lately, however, i do have more and more doubts about the god of the bible being a candidate for that all-powerful creator should such a being even exist at all.. these doubts are founded upon a number of questions for which i have never found any satisfying biblical or logical answer.
instead, i was simply chided with the remark that "god's actions aren't always meant to be understood by humans," which i found to be a very unsatisfying answer.
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Sir82 Wait a minute....
God's holy book says my heart is "treacherous".
How do I know if the condition of my heart is "right"? Suppose I see evidence that convinces me that God really does exist. How do I know that I'm not just being deceived by my "treacherous" heart?
Can't have it both ways.
That was basically Rene Descarte's argument, except he proposed it may be an evil fairy creating an 'illusion' or dream about what is or isn't real or true, but it amounts to the same question really and it's a damned good one. All you can really know is that you yourself exist...else you would not be posing any question. It's ' The cogito' I think therefore I am. He basically tried to strip it all away and build It up from that one proposition.
I'm sure u guys know all this but I thought I'd point it out for Jew be.😄
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The Great Crowd!
by A Believer innotice the 144000 can be counted and they all come from israel.. 9 after this i saw, and look!
a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues,*+ standing before the throne and before the lamb, dressed in white robes;+ and there were palm branches in their hands.+ .
this great crowd, no man was able to number, and they come from every nation!
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Wizzstick I, unlike believer, have read your document. It simply and comprehensively using only the bible and Watchtower explains the great crowd in Revelation ( which is the one we are talking about, the relevant " Great crowd) is in the naos, or heaven .
Please can you post it on here as I have tried and cannot.
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Despite their false predictions aren't the JWs right? Won't the world eventually end & Paradise come?
by deegee inaren't there christian denominations who do not make false end of the world predictions but who nevertheless believe that the world will eventually end and paradise (whether in heaven or on earth) will come?.
it seems the watchtower was just jumping the gun when they made false end of the world predictions but they are nevertheless the right: the world will eventually end and paradise will come..
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IThe world will end as it gets enveloped by our Sun when it runs out of hydrogen at its core and becomes a red giant, but unless you think 2,200 to 3,200 degrees Celsius (4,000 to 5,800 degrees Fahrenheit), a little over half as hot as the sun is now,as the world ends as being your idea of paradise you can forget the paradise bit.
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The Story of My Sister - Lurkers: Is this logical?
by Funchback inmy sister got baptized at 17 or 18 years old in 1983. she was ripe for the jw picking as she was shy, quiet, naive and with low self-esteem even though she was tall and beautiful and she attended one of the best high schools in philadelphia.. she wasn't outgoing and she only went out on a couple of dates prior to her baptism.
she worked at a day care center.
she loved children and animals.
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The irony is if you both had not told the elders of her church wedding, just quietly attended not making it known within the cong, they never would have DA your Sis. Again, it's not the act itself but if it is known and 'stumbles'. Not the marriage itself but what building the vows are exchanged in even though jws see all buildings as plain buildings supposedly denying that one is holier than another or more profane than another.