Posts by Diogenesister

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And then it hit me: we were abused

by Anders Andersen in

from a psychcentral (run by mental health professionals): a familiar item on a list of 7 types of parental abuse :.

spiritual abuse.

has the child experienced:dichotomous thinking – dividing people into two parts: those who agree with the parent and those who don’t.

Diogenesister

I disagree strongly that

Public performance :

and

Fraud are not a part of Witness childhood abuse.

Public performance: How can anyone say that PUNLIC PERFORMANCE are not a part of witness life. Children are expected to go D2D what more literal public performance is that??? Also the secondary meaning of this problem - that children are expected to behave impeccably in kingdom hall...to the extent that VERY young children are smacked and physically abused in the bathrooms for behaving like, well normal toddlers. Older kids are expected to put on the fake "happy witness" face, another public performance.

Fraud : With regard to this we all know of the avalanche of sexual abuse cases that were not reported because protecting the witness name was more important than protecting kids. THAT is the very definition of this type of abuse...parental and adult pressure to comply with keeping quiet and not reporting crime committed within the congregation.

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And then it hit me: we were abused

by Anders Andersen in

from a psychcentral (run by mental health professionals): a familiar item on a list of 7 types of parental abuse :.

spiritual abuse.

has the child experienced:dichotomous thinking – dividing people into two parts: those who agree with the parent and those who don’t.

Diogenesister

David_Jay I know well that nightmare of thinking "oh no I'm a child again"and the abject fear it entails.

Anders Anderson What struck me suddenly like a bolt when ai read that list is kids were victims of religious abuse when I was a kid in the 70's and 80's

Jehovahs witnesses : almost all the kids I knew were subject to most things on that list

Sikh kids couldn't mix with Hindu kids even in school, so seperation and looking down on others. Violence toward non compliant kids in terms of religon

Hindu kids couldn't mix with lower cast kids

Sikh kids were kept seperated from society, forbidden absolutely to carry on froendships with whites and blacks out of school. Again kept seperate from "the world"

Muslim girls often ended up in young marriages with abusive partners. Surprisingly drink often involved but their separation, again from " the world" often limited their opportunities for help.

The more I think the more I realise how prevalent religeous abuse was back then.Even now my brother's best friend has had to take a court order out on his wife who was physically abusing his daughter, all in the name off religion. He is a Sikh.

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the-question (607 BCE explained and proved)

by pleaseresearch in

so a user named "the-question" said the jw's were right about 607 bce.. this is your chance brother to prove us all wrong.. we all can't wait to hear from you :).

Diogenesister

David_Jay I am getting help from some rabbinical assistance as I write this. Right now they are explaining to me that the real error in the Witnesses dating is that they are counting 70 years as if they are SOLAR, but in reality the 70 years are LUNAR

Funny they count the 70 years as solar, and yet when they calculate the date of the memorial they use lunar months as per the Jewish calender.

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I will only believe in demons if...

by deegee in

jws are known to have an obsession and preoccupation with demons.. this obsession and preoccupation is not without merit given that jesus, his disciples/apostles, and the general public of 1st century ce judea and galilee are reported as believing in the existence of demonic spirits and in the possibility of demon possession of an individual.. exorcism formed a large part of jesus' ministry on earth.

the gospels and the book of acts describe many exorcisms where jesus and his disciples release people from demonic possession.. ___ .

but how do demons get inside a person's brain or body?

Diogenesister

I knew a guy, the child of Polish Roman Catholics , who was excorcized. It was a horrific experience for him. It was the culmination of years of childhood suffering at the hands of abusive, NARCISSISTIC parents. The Church didn't balk at putting a child through an horrific ordeal when the problem was the adults around him. I don't think this case is atypical.

A lovely man with a wonderful family of his own , he suffered from severe depression his whole life. It goes without saying he became a life-long atheist.

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So, I watched "The Founder" today, and had a minor Revelation

by Captain Schmideo2 in

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in the movie's story, ray kroc, the man who is in charge of franchising mcdonalds restaurants, is finding himself in a situation where he is doing gangbusters at creating the stores, but is going broke on his contract.

he gets help from another fast food executive who examines his books.one aspect of the business jumps out.

the stores need land to operate on, and that money is going to the land-owners who lease the land to the stores.

Diogenesister

Captain you deserve a large one for that post, mate

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Query: How to Generate a Shaded Background for Quoted Excerpts

by steve2 in

i've been wondering for some time how to generate a shaded background to show excerpts i quote from other posters.

it's not obvious to me from an inspection of the different tabs which one governs background shading to show quotes.. can anyone help?

thanks.. kind regards, steve2 .

Diogenesister

I have to shade my quotes once I've completed my post as clicking the paragraph symbol doesn't take it back to regular " unshaded" writing. Hence I do it at the end (if the quotes at the beginning) or my whole post is shaded.

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Smelly WATCHTOWERS

by Zoos in

in 1967 i had the misfortune of being born with a watchtower stuck in my ass.

it took 45 years for me to realize, "hey!

there's a watchtower stuck in my ass!

Diogenesister

😂😂😂 oh Zoo's you made me laugh!!

Sounds like you and I managed to yank that sucker out about the same time.

Difference was, you was born with it, I had it rammed up mine about 7 - don't know what's worse!

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Questions JWs Ask: Mike from Greece wants to know...

by Funchback in

mike from greece is a member of a pro-jw forum (message board).. the jw religion has so many rules so mike wants to clarify some correct procedures.. what woud you like to know, mike?.

a couple of questions dear brothers & sisters of the forum about women's head coverings1)should it be considered wrong for a sister to wear a head covering during the meetings?

i have seen some old sisters, one in our congregation and a couple in other two that like wearing head coverings during the meetings.

Diogenesister

Old sisters have never worn head coverings in meetings. Mike from GREECE needs to get to know his own culture a bit more since the old dears behaviour is a hang over from their ~~Babylonish~~ Orthodox upbringing where women traditionAlly wear hats or headscarfs to CHURCH.

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2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"

by breakfast of champions in

my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.

pretty telling.. .

Diogenesister

Richard O. Breakfast O.C.I had no idea that such a memo was sent out.

Whilst we all know contact with law enforcement has always been discouraged amongst JW's for victims of crimes committed by others within the org, including child sexual abuse, I wasn't aware of an *official written* admonition positively not do so *on pain of punishment*.

With the further instructions given with that order, this would explain why the authorities are convinced of the existence of a very extensive database

From what I have read on this site it seems certain Ted Jaracz was almost certainly the "behind the scenes" instigator of this abominable order.

Given their extensive powers and skill, with the co-operation that various national law enforcement teams maintain with each other it would Not surprise me if they have uncovered the real reason for Jaracz peremptory return to the States from Australian Bethel. Perhaps also any shady connections he maintained there.

I am no conspiracy theorist but the whole Watchtower involvement with paedophilia , in my opinion at least, gets darker by the day.😞

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Watchtower let off the hook by the UK charities commission

by jambon1 in

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say what they like, but it's a definite withdrawal of pressure.

the commission is slow, needlessly protracted and inconsiderate of the extent to which ongoing damage is being carried out.. scrap it.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/watch-tower-statement-on-administrative-court-proceedings.

Diogenesister

I think the Charity Commision, far from withdrawing pressure, just wants to get on with the damn job it's been mandated to do and get the WT to quit these protracted and ( costly to the tax payer) legal proceedings it's so bloody fond of. I just hope the Commission has got what it needs to do a thorough investigation