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  (Not so) Subliminal Shave Your Beard Message

  by Funchback in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm in the middle of dissecting the june 2017 jw broadcasting video.. in the first minute, they summarize a story about a guy who apparently was a one-time bad ass (showed a picture of him with a beard while posing on a chopper).

  then, they show him shaving at the exact same moment the narrator is saying how he regained "a clean conscience".. this no-beard obsession by the jws is beyond nuts.. .

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  John DaviesThere are employers who make rules like that. If you want to be part of an organisation and they have a rule like that, you have to follow the rule.
  

  Funchback !!! And you are correct when saying the Watchtower is an employer. A publishing company, actually

  Oh LOL! JW's love their "illustrations" and this one hit the nail on the head!!!!

  The Watchtower Organization has always been an employer - a publishing corporation actually - and like any employer it makes up the rules.

  *Business dress code is essential to maximize financial returns*.

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  Personally, I think the GB has a pathological inability to say it was wrong. Perhaps because they have had to publicly change their minds so many times in the BIG things, its just too painful to do a U-TURN on the small things. That's my tupence worth, anyway 😉
  
  
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  A woman wearing a head covering in subjugation of men - absolutely mental

  by jambon1 in

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  2. friends

  how did they ever get away with that and how does it go down now, in today's society?.

  its fucking mental.

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  Vidiot2 days ago2 days ago

  I've come to suspect that the overall cultural subjugation of women has its origins in efforts to make sex more easily accessible to men who otherwise had considerable trouble getting it.

  You May be on to something there, as a woman it's been my experience that the more intelligent, pleasant, nice looking , well balanced etc etc a guy is the less likely he is to treat women as second rate.

  Obviously these types of guys rarely have problems finding a girlfriend/partner etc.
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  They should show this 2 minute video about 1975 at the convention

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  if only there was a way to hack in and play this.

  :).

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bmca1qdhho&feature=push-u&attr_tag=3yku113wrp-khxdt-6.

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  It will happen again to this generation. I mean ok, 75 was a big push that brought more into the org, but really every year is 75. Every year is advertised as the "soon, very soon" year that Armageddon is bound to happen ; so sacrifice your education, a marriage, having children, travel, buying a home, life insurance and pension plans, the holiday of a lifetime, time spent with loved ones or pursuing an interest or a sport ..... . Yes, every year is someone's 1975.
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  Does anyone remember a district overseer Joe Slaiman?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  joe slaiman and his wife jean were in the travelling work in australia throughout the 90's... ( i may have spelt the name incorrectly).

  anyone remember them?

  they were very well liked by many of the brothers and sisters.. i wonder what happened to him?

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  Jwsjw hi there! We've never met ( I'm a prisoner of mother England actually) and I just wanted to say that I'm a exJW reddit regular and time and again we hear of jw's who are either youngsters reluctant to get baptised or are baptised publishers/servants/pioneers/elders and thinking about leaving. When they are open about doubting the Bible as the inerrant word of God they often have no problems whatsoever with the Org and or elders etc. It's just classed as " having doubts" and seen as (almost) understandable. However, if one questions the Slave as God's mouthpiece, well, that's apostasy and judicial action is very likely.

  This is my experience, anyway, I'm happy to know it seems to have been yours, too. I'm also really glad to know you have a profession and means to care for yourself as, sadly, so many have been made to leave full time service with nothing to fall back on recently.
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  What "Rules" Did The Elders In Your KH Make?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  some congregations were known as liberal and others were considered very conservative.

  back in the 1970s a nearby congregation made all speakers who gave public talks a white shirt to wear.

  if a speaker came in wearing anything but white they were brought into the library and were given a white shirt!

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  John Davis and Level the playing field12 hours ago12 hours ago

  Actually, Level the playing field, the issue over copyright is not a CO pet peeve thing. That came from the Branch, there have been reminders that copyrighted material cannot be used without the permission of the copyright owner even if the owner is the Organization. the use of the lyrics, the logo or other items cannot be used without the express permission of the branch or the corporation that owns the copyright.

  THIS is the problem with wtbts/JWs in General....they are *so* used to being micromanaged that they don't know where to draw the line, where "reasonable" is in the decision making process. i.e. when giving directions not to use the copyrighted work of others in talks or demonstrations that wouldn't include using the copyrighted lyrics of a Watchtower song in a Watchtower hall of worship ( ha! See what I did there...a hall where they worship Watchtower!That's about right!)
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  What "Rules" Did The Elders In Your KH Make?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  some congregations were known as liberal and others were considered very conservative.

  back in the 1970s a nearby congregation made all speakers who gave public talks a white shirt to wear.

  if a speaker came in wearing anything but white they were brought into the library and were given a white shirt!

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  minimus13 hours ago13 hours ago

  I had a circuit assembly part and I had my daughter's best friend in the demonstration and she had the longest skirt you could ever picture with a small slit on the side not quite going to the knee and they went ballistic

  Doh! These idiots....the reason long (or maxi) skirts are designed with a slit in the side is that unless you take "dolly" steps you cannot walk without it!

  
  
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  A woman wearing a head covering in subjugation of men - absolutely mental

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  how did they ever get away with that and how does it go down now, in today's society?.

  its fucking mental.

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  Darknight757 you I right, I believe, what is it with middle eastern men and HAIR?! Well I guess their beautiful thick shiny hair, both male and female, is pretty Lush!!!

  However it is the hair that is the issue, hence Jewish women shave their hair, so that not a speck if it may pop out and enrage God and man! JWs that napkin just wouldn't cut it in the literal world of the OT they adore so much! Not sure what the OT is really getting at with the whole hair issue, can anyone enlighten us?
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  Russian BOE letters of instruction - meetings and $$$ matter$

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  these letters can be found in the original russian on jwforum.eu.. i will provide links but also copy and paste the english translation that was provided for each one.. this first letter was dated may 21, 2017 and concerns instructions on how to handle the donation$.

  (*bolding is mine).

  we should not make the same boxes for all groups.

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  Any EXCESS funds should be sent to us, WTBTS ( i.e. not required for now defunct KH upkeep) . Or for overseer's of course. But.....

  NO mention of funds being set up for dependents of those arrested or have lost jobs due to being JW's.

  They care nothing for the trusting sheep. Just "their" money.
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  "They trampled on my humility."

  by Zoos in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it's rare that i bump into someone from the old hall.

  but it happened yesterday with one of the nicest brothers i remember.. he came into my place of work not knowing i worked there.

  my company is now on his delivery route.

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  Lieua year agoa year ago

  What??!!!?? No celebration for the son who was dead and now has humbly returned? You mean they jumped on him like a pack of wolves?

  Summed up perfectly.

  Where are the hugs to welcome back the brother who was out in the cold? It breaks my heart how such wonderful people are so abused and deluded. I am so glad your friend has moved on and his eyes are wide open now.
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  JW Cart encounter

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i've seen very few carts in western australia.

  the only one i have seen is near the front entrance of the perth royal hospital and on the several occasions that i have seen it, they are there all day, at least during the week.

  i've stopped and had long conversations twice now and both times when i have approached them they've told me to take whatever publications interest me and then we've started talking.this last visit i brought up the royal commission.

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  . The JW was quick to tell me how the Commission praised them for being so organized. In fact they were the most organized of all organizations because they had copious notes prepared and lists of details.

  GASP!!Oh yes we're organized, the most organized organizational organization organized as God's organizational organizations are always organized.
  But we don't worry about child abuse, domestic violence, suicide, mental illness, the death of new mothers/young women, splitting up families, or the care of homeless older Bethelites who have given their whole lives to us in service. No. But we're bloody well organized.