Posts by Diogenesister

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My parents found out

by BlackWolf in

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so in my last post i talked about how i had told my younger siblings how i didn't plan to get baptized or ever be a witness.

i thought i could trust them but i guess i was wrong, they're just kids after all.

my oldest brother (who's 11) told on me today.

I'm going to take a wild guess and say it's because he wants the attention and adoration being baptised will bring ( for about 5 minutes). As a boy he might also enjoy wielding power over his big sister - DA DA DA DA....DUBMAN !!! You could make him a cape LoL!

Srsly tho your parents don't seem too bad if they are happy for u to just pretend, and they won't force you. I would only recommend a move in with Aunt if u know her very, very well and she is totaly willing to take on all parental responsibility. You are still young. Go easy, work hard at school and aim for college.

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Who Is An Apostate?

by NeonMadman in

maybe you've heard the story of a brother in the watchtower's writing department who was very smart, hard working and a good writer.

we'll call him charley.

charley was so good, in fact, that he advanced through the ranks and became a co-editor of the watchtower magazine.

Diogenesister

Very powerful, very thought provoking and, of course, Interesting. No question that any jw would be forced to agree - he was an apostate.

Would you be able to expand on the differences the two had over the ransome issue? I'd be really interested if you would, thank you👍

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Report from Japan

by wifibandit in

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anon in japan says:.

i served in the third circuit of shikoku japan.

a few years ago, a well-known theocratic family disassociated.

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In fact I think I can think of a counter example. Internet access has taken longer to grow in Germany than the UK for example, despite Germany being more prosperous. Yet JW growth has been more sluggish in Germany over the past two decades than in the UK. It's weak evidence either way, yet if the Internet significantly slowed growth we might expect the opposite pattern, ceteris paribus.

Actually I believe this is probably a good example of your previous point . Until *very recently* I'd be willing to bet there is a lot more net migration into Britain than Germany and with our colonial past a good deal of these people were from 3rd world Commonwealth countries, such as the Caribbean and Africa, with a traditionally very religious culture. I believe that's were you'd find the growth, rarther than from native Britons. Unless the birth rate of the two countries is significantly different.

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Report from Japan

by wifibandit in

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anon in japan says:.

i served in the third circuit of shikoku japan.

a few years ago, a well-known theocratic family disassociated.

Diogenesister

Not sure internet access is an important variable.

I know co-relation is not causation but come on - the only countries with any real growth are the poorer lands in Africa and some South American countries which common sense would dictate have way less access to the internet.

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(Not so) Subliminal Shave Your Beard Message

by Funchback in

i'm in the middle of dissecting the june 2017 jw broadcasting video.. in the first minute, they summarize a story about a guy who apparently was a one-time bad ass (showed a picture of him with a beard while posing on a chopper).

then, they show him shaving at the exact same moment the narrator is saying how he regained "a clean conscience".. this no-beard obsession by the jws is beyond nuts.. .

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John DaviesThere are employers who make rules like that. If you want to be part of an organisation and they have a rule like that, you have to follow the rule.
Funchback !!! And you are correct when saying the Watchtower is an employer. A publishing company, actually

Oh LOL! JW's love their "illustrations" and this one hit the nail on the head!!!!

The Watchtower Organization has always been an employer - a publishing corporation actually - and like any employer it makes up the rules.

*Business dress code is essential to maximize financial returns*.

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Personally, I think the GB has a pathological inability to say it was wrong. Perhaps because they have had to publicly change their minds so many times in the BIG things, its just too painful to do a U-TURN on the small things. That's my tupence worth, anyway 😉

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A woman wearing a head covering in subjugation of men - absolutely mental

by jambon1 in

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how did they ever get away with that and how does it go down now, in today's society?.

its fucking mental.

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Vidiot2 days ago2 days ago

I've come to suspect that the overall cultural subjugation of women has its origins in efforts to make sex more easily accessible to men who otherwise had considerable trouble getting it.

You May be on to something there, as a woman it's been my experience that the more intelligent, pleasant, nice looking , well balanced etc etc a guy is the less likely he is to treat women as second rate.

Obviously these types of guys rarely have problems finding a girlfriend/partner etc.

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They should show this 2 minute video about 1975 at the convention

by LevelThePlayingField in

if only there was a way to hack in and play this.

:).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bmca1qdhho&feature=push-u&attr_tag=3yku113wrp-khxdt-6.

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It will happen again to this generation. I mean ok, 75 was a big push that brought more into the org, but really every year is 75. Every year is advertised as the "soon, very soon" year that Armageddon is bound to happen ; so sacrifice your education, a marriage, having children, travel, buying a home, life insurance and pension plans, the holiday of a lifetime, time spent with loved ones or pursuing an interest or a sport ..... . Yes, every year is someone's 1975.

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Does anyone remember a district overseer Joe Slaiman?

by stuckinarut2 in

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joe slaiman and his wife jean were in the travelling work in australia throughout the 90's... ( i may have spelt the name incorrectly).

anyone remember them?

they were very well liked by many of the brothers and sisters.. i wonder what happened to him?

Diogenesister

Jwsjw hi there! We've never met ( I'm a prisoner of mother England actually) and I just wanted to say that I'm a exJW reddit regular and time and again we hear of jw's who are either youngsters reluctant to get baptised or are baptised publishers/servants/pioneers/elders and thinking about leaving. When they are open about doubting the Bible as the inerrant word of God they often have no problems whatsoever with the Org and or elders etc. It's just classed as " having doubts" and seen as (almost) understandable. However, if one questions the Slave as God's mouthpiece, well, that's apostasy and judicial action is very likely.

This is my experience, anyway, I'm happy to know it seems to have been yours, too. I'm also really glad to know you have a profession and means to care for yourself as, sadly, so many have been made to leave full time service with nothing to fall back on recently.

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What "Rules" Did The Elders In Your KH Make?

by minimus in

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some congregations were known as liberal and others were considered very conservative.

back in the 1970s a nearby congregation made all speakers who gave public talks a white shirt to wear.

if a speaker came in wearing anything but white they were brought into the library and were given a white shirt!

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John Davis and Level the playing field12 hours ago12 hours ago

Actually, Level the playing field, the issue over copyright is not a CO pet peeve thing. That came from the Branch, there have been reminders that copyrighted material cannot be used without the permission of the copyright owner even if the owner is the Organization. the use of the lyrics, the logo or other items cannot be used without the express permission of the branch or the corporation that owns the copyright.

THIS is the problem with wtbts/JWs in General....they are *so* used to being micromanaged that they don't know where to draw the line, where "reasonable" is in the decision making process. i.e. when giving directions not to use the copyrighted work of others in talks or demonstrations that wouldn't include using the copyrighted lyrics of a Watchtower song in a Watchtower hall of worship ( ha! See what I did there...a hall where they worship Watchtower!That's about right!)

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What "Rules" Did The Elders In Your KH Make?

by minimus in

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some congregations were known as liberal and others were considered very conservative.

back in the 1970s a nearby congregation made all speakers who gave public talks a white shirt to wear.

if a speaker came in wearing anything but white they were brought into the library and were given a white shirt!

Diogenesister

minimus13 hours ago13 hours ago

I had a circuit assembly part and I had my daughter's best friend in the demonstration and she had the longest skirt you could ever picture with a small slit on the side not quite going to the knee and they went ballistic

Doh! These idiots....the reason long (or maxi) skirts are designed with a slit in the side is that unless you take "dolly" steps you cannot walk without it!