Posts by Diogenesister

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The upcoming protest at Warwick on November 5th

by UnshackleTheChains in

hey all.. just saw this video about the upcoming protest at warwick on november 5th.

it looks like some momentum is building up to it.

but what i really want to know is will it have much impact?

Diogenesister

Not sure about the idea of involving other religions, as doing so may be seen as a conflict of interest on the part of the churches involved.

Yes Pete you have a very good point.

I think letting the religious community know about Watchtower's cruelties generally is good, because people with a belief in GOD are obviously more vulnerable to being converted.

But - as yourself and Steve 2 mention - a ' rent a crowd' from competing churches would detract from the message, and give Watchtower ammunition against them.

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Child Sacrifice among Jehovah's Witnesses

by Lee Elder in

this updated article at ajwrb explores some of the roots of child sacrifice that the watchtower essentially encourages jehovah's witness parents to observe.

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http://ajwrb.org/watchtower-sacrificial-lambs.

The upcoming protest at Warwick on November 5th

by UnshackleTheChains in

hey all.. just saw this video about the upcoming protest at warwick on november 5th.

it looks like some momentum is building up to it.

but what i really want to know is will it have much impact?

This lass is ringing local churches and the general Warwick community and letting them know about the upcoming protest. She's wonderfully articulate and super approachable so makes a very good impression. I truly wish them all the best and if I lived in the USA I'd be there in a heartbeat.

https://youtu.be/FQpQK3Hr_y4

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meetings 18+ only

by Akid48 in

the title was a joke but i going to tell a story that happend to me a a meeting.. there was a brother giving a talk now from my other post there are like 4 teens and 10 or more kids 5 to 8.now the brother just said now most of you kids will be getting asked have you lost your virginity.now all the teens are 13 like more or a year older you havent had sex but they dont care.. but the young kids most likey just asked there mom and dad when they got home ''mom dad whats my virginity''?.

just my god man what the fuck where you thinking when writeing that..

Diogenesister

Oh boy are you ever right! In appropriate isn't the word!! To be honest I've heard of believing JW women saying they won't take their young kids to meetings. They also don't like the violent imagery, too, and very late meeting finishes. Seriously, modern parents won't tolerate this sort of thing.

And of course born-in parents remember the embarrassment, fear and boredom from their own childhoods, too.

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Just Got Dubbed..

by snugglebunny in

jw
friends

so there i was earlier today, enjoying a spot of lunch in a pleasant little cafe whilst out shopping, when up came a fella i vaguely recognised from the dim and distant past just as i was tucking into my highland soup with bread roll and butter..

"i would never ignore you you know".. "eh?

what" i ventured wondering wtf is this all about.

Diogenesister

Nice to know you haven't changed too much after so many years !

I wonder....do you think he was looking for an opening? A kindred spirit, perhaps? After all it must be very disheartening for dubs that diddly squat has happened so far....103 years and counting.

Sounds to me like someone who knows he was wrong holding out an Olive branch.....(?)

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"We don't venerate idols or images!"

by stuckinarut2 in

how often did we as witnesses say something like this : "unlike members of false religion, who venerate or worship through statues or idols, we give our focus to jehovah!".

members of religious groups focus their religious adoration via an image or statue.

they do this in order to provide some sort of focus to their need to worship.. witnesses give extreme focus on the name "jehovah" .

Diogenesister

Of all the bizaro things to object to.....a choir. Any idea why the society had a thing about choirs? Or was it just a case of " anything remotely fun we don't do".

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Interesting conversation with JW friend

by Jules Saturn in

i was withh a friend of mine who is a jw still and for whatever reason we started talking the bible.

i asked him about lazarus and how is that when he died he paid the price of sin, but then jesus resurrected him.

and i asked him "where is lazarus today?

Diogenesister

.June's Saturn I even explained to him, that it's like a person who feels lust for an animal.

I don't even think it's that simple. I mean as you said last is a human trait, so it's like us having the trait of another species...The behavioural instincts of another species.

Say like a bird has the trait or instinct to build nests. It's like a human suddenly collecting sticks and twigs and trying to build a nest.....then settling down to roost, picture that!!! It was something utterly contrary to their nature - like nest building is to us!!

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Evolution is a Fact #5 - Vitamin C

by cofty in

part 1 - protein functional redundancypart 2 - dna functional redundancypart 3 - ervspart 4 - smelly genes.

in part 4 we saw that roughly half of the 800 genes in the human genome that code for olfactory receptors are broken remnants of our evolutionary history.

they were vital to our distant ancestors but in humans, as in our primate cousins they have been allowed to fall into disuse as our eyes became more important to our survival than our nose.

Diogenesister

Pale.Emperor I remember visiting the natural history museum in New York and not being able to explain away the skulls that clearly didnt belong to any modern human or gorilla or monkey

Isn't it incredible that when you look at them, even as a lay person with zero knowledge of anatomy and physiology, it's plain to see they are neither ape nor human skulls....but something else altogether, yet at the same time very obviously closely related.

Breathtaking to see them in the flesh, so to speak*.

Edit*I believe they are often copies the real thing being too precious.

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Evolution is a Fact #5 - Vitamin C

by cofty in

part 1 - protein functional redundancypart 2 - dna functional redundancypart 3 - ervspart 4 - smelly genes.

in part 4 we saw that roughly half of the 800 genes in the human genome that code for olfactory receptors are broken remnants of our evolutionary history.

they were vital to our distant ancestors but in humans, as in our primate cousins they have been allowed to fall into disuse as our eyes became more important to our survival than our nose.

Diogenesister

See the thread in this series on olfactory genes for another example.

I actually was looking at that one today!

So interesting that some people can get their ear wiggle on if they practice! Sadly,I'm not one, believe me I tried as a kid - of course never knowing the significance.

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Elderly ex JW calls Bethel for answers

by Listener in

there's an interesting youtube where an elderly ex jw, john newsome calls the watchtower with a number of problems he wanted to discuss.

he told the elder that he wanted to discuss the un scandal, child molestation, failed dates and ray franz.

the call goes for over half an hour and is very exposing.the bethel elder says he doesn't want to discuss the issues in detail because it would take too long and proceeds to tell him that john needs to look at all of their righteous works.

Diogenesister

The elder gives Mathew 18.

The scripture that talks about John neither eating or drinking - and being criticized for it, then Jesus who did eat and drink, together with tax collectors - yet he too was criticized for that.

Ok.Fine scripture. And it would be pertinent, if you found out something you didn't like about your church IF YOUR CHURCH FORGAVE OTHERS WHO LIKEWISE STUMBLED.

But no, Watchtower shuns anyone who puts one foot in the wrong direction, so that scripture is completely irrelevant to Phariseeical Watchtower.

Their works are bad.

As to neutrality YES the brothers take a stand , but Watchtower does not (Mexico, flags in Chile,Rutherfords letter to Hitler ) but throw Their lambs to the wolves.