Posts by Diogenesister

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Living with non belivers

by Blade666 in

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my question is can you as a jw live on same premises as a non jw.... in split house/property with no sexual relations or anything involved... i am being forced to move due to a "sister" wanting to go back to her god and has made the point of saying she cannot have a male around.

even though the property itself is split with seperate access for both parts of the house.. she has put a blanket rule out saying the whole property itself... doesnt make sense to me nor to any of the elders i have spoken to regarding the matter.. yes i called them as i know next to nothing about the faith.. .

i find it strange that two elders urge a non jw to seek justice from fair trading and rental tribunal as they themselves do not belive the actions of the "sister" in question or her family to be correct or right... .

Diogenesister

There's no JW anything that forces her to not have a male roommate.

A jw woman absolutely cannot share a flat or house with an unrelated male, jw or not.

However, this is not the case in this instance. There are seperate entrances (presumably it's a house conversion) which is absolutely fine as they are physically two separate properties.

You didn't mention if she or her relatives are your landlords but I presume they are or this wouldn't be an issue. If they are I would recommend taking legal action and although they can make you leave in the end, of course, you should receive some financial compensation.

It might be worth mentioning this to her/relatives/landlord as perhaps you can come to some arrangement whereby they recompense you financially for moving without having to go to court

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The Great Pyramid of Gizeh: New Light!

by Ding in

the guardian has a story about a recent discovery regarding the great pyramid of gizeh.

it begins this way:.

"archaeologists have uncovered a mysterious enclosure hidden deep inside the great pyramid of giza, the oldest of the seven wonders of the ancient world.

Diogenesister

The massive cavity stretches for at least 30 metres and lies above the grand gallery, an impressive ascending corridor that connects the Queen’s chamber to the King’s in the heart of the historic monument.

Am I the only one feeling a little queezy? This is a burial chamber we're talking about...I thought those things were sealed when the incumbent died, does this mean the poor Queen was sealed up alive?!!

510

What Music have you Been Listening to this Last Year ? Post You tubes if you Like !

by flipper in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wktxjuyiat4.

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Diogenesister

Fishy how do you pronounce the name of the band/singer in the supermarket, please? Is it Russian? I like the video!

510

What Music have you Been Listening to this Last Year ? Post You tubes if you Like !

by flipper in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wktxjuyiat4.

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Diogenesister

https://youtu.be/xwWBC_ZlLeE

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California Tubbs Fire photos you might not find find anywhere else...

by La Capra in

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to quote someone near and dear: they should have built the whole kingdom hall out of the same thing they built the signs.... i had to wait nearly two weeks to get into the neighborhood to get these pictures for your voyeuristic interests...this is peanuts compared to the over 5,000 homes that were destroyed (this number includes individual units in large apartment complexes that were completely razed).

those pictures and videos are available in the media.

wine country is a community devastated..

Diogenesister

zIm actually fascinated by the trees. I don't know if I'm not seeing them properly, or perhaps I'm not properly cognizant with the effects of fire, but are these perhaps some varieties of ' fire retardant'( for want of a better term) trees? I just vaguely remember hearing about some types of tree from regions that suffer from forest fire learning to cope and proliferate in the future. Or maybe the fire just passed them over, somehow?

maybe they should have built the whole KH out of the same stuff they made the signs from

Lololo!

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Stagnation of JWs in Britain

by darkspilver in

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this is an 'off-topic' continuation of this discussion.

steve2: in britain, growth of publishers is slowing down, if not stagnating.

darkspilver: .

Diogenesister

I just hope I'm still around to see it!

George (Well past his sell by date)

So do we George!!! Who would fight all the dragons for us😀

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Unwritten Theory

by moreconfusedthanever in

have any of you heard some theories from jws that are not based on scripture?

i have, in the past few days, heard a couple that have me shaking my head.. first one is that since satan was around during the creation period and probably watched on as things were being made, it is possible that he is responsible for the creation of some of the more hideous and nasty creatures that live among us.

surely god wouldn't make horrible things.. second one is that satan already had a bad attitude before the creation of adam and eve and was collecting followers among the other angels early on and stirring trouble.

Diogenesister

Punky (and everyone)I heard a sister(tm) saying that thing about satan creating wasps and nasty creepy crawlies. So bonkers.

If Satan could do that - create life himself, do they not wonder what differentiates him from God?

Not to mention a lot of these ' creepy crawlies' carry out vital functions - such as pollination, eating pests themselves - without which our whole ecosystem would collapse. That's pretty decent of Satan, I'd say!

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Faced with the reality of mortality

by stuckinarut2 in

how have you all coped with facing the reality of our mortality?.

most of us were raised to firmly believe we would never get old or die... so here we are now having to face the reality that are getting older... we are going to die.. sometimes it really pisses me off that we were never helped to comprehend this most basic of facts.

we were given a utopian dream as a "fact", and hence never taught how to face our inevitable futures.... thoughts?.

Diogenesister

Excellent post! Our mortality is something that hit me hard, since I became unwell in my 40s and coincided with my full awakening. Its an important topic that we as exjws should talk about more.

I wonder if it's been studied by psychologists, as it must be a fairly rare phenomenon, no? To be so utterly sure of your own immortality, despite all evidence to the contrary!

SBF The sense being that, if such properties comprise who we are in toto, then the extension or recapitulation of who we are is merely a technical question that will be solved one day.

This is something I firmly believe. That is if we don't destroy ourselves first.

Sadly, SBF, you and I were born too soon and will miss that boat. But energy is just transferred from one form to another. Perhaps part of our energy will become a snowdrop, or a wolf cub?

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Irish Elders deleted by Watchtower for reporting child sex abuse allegation to police

by Diogenesister in

two elders have been deleted by watchtower for reporting an allegation of child sexual abuse to the police, contrary to watchtower orders (a jw paedophile with a history, apparently).

when the british branch discovered what the elders had done they arranged for 3 elders to fly over to ireland, at the congregations expense no less, to hold a special jc for the ' rogue' congregation elders.

one elder and the cobe were deleted, two were allowed to continue.

Diogenesister

Two elders have been deleted by Watchtower for reporting an allegation of child sexual abuse to the police, contrary to Watchtower orders (a jw paedophile with a history, apparently). When the British branch discovered what the elders had done they arranged for 3 elders to fly over to Ireland, at the congregations expense no less, to hold a special JC for the ' rogue' congregation elders. One elder and the COBE were deleted, two were allowed to continue. All four had made statements to police.

Their crime was, breathtakingly, not exhibiting "soundness of mind" by not following company directives and using their own conscience!!!

The following 'Watchtower in Focus' explains all. Incredibly a practicing jw reached out to jw survey in an attempt to have a light shone on this travesty of justice, which resulted in an excellent front page article being written in a national magazine.

Lloyd Evans practice of maintaining a less antagonistic attitude toward jw's is paying off.

**Hats off to the right thinking, decent elders, whoever you are!!**

https://youtu.be/jAS3gkg5tTo

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How many watchtowers do the witnesses receive each year?

by Truth and Justice in

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my question is how many watchtower and awake magazines do the witnesses receive thru the year?

my mother and i stop going about 30 years ago, my sister does attend still, and she says that they will receive 3 watchtowers and 3 awakes a year.

is that true?

Diogenesister

This is for the new year, for the public that is. Presently they receive one a month, alternately Watchtower and Awake. You are correct they have cut back a great deal.

I'm afraid your sister is using a bit of ' theocratic warfare' on you, as Witnesses term porkies!!