Posts by Diogenesister

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

I have filed yet another complaint with Patreon asking them to investigate and remove Lloyd's account. If you have not done so, please consider contacting them. The video on Marko's statement was included in my newest complaint

Yes his statement on Patreon claims ALL the money goes towards his Hack-tivism activities. I think it's a grey area that needs clarifying legally. I tend to think if he hadn't worded it quite like that he would be untouchable in that regard, legally if not morally.

However I saw a video somewhere by Joel of The Vast Apostate Army and he said back in 2017 or 18 Lloyd fund raised heaps in order to sue them for slander or something.....apparently they didn't so much as receive a cease and desist so in that instance he was definitely receiving money on false premises.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

😯

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JWs don’t use the apocryphal, yet source them

by Anony Mous in

so a quick little note about a few things that i recently learned.

if you ever had the yellow book of bible stories, there was the story of enoch, also repeated in other watchtower publications, about the angels fathering giants and being a menace on earth.

now if you look at the nicean bible, which is the wtbts selection of the bible, it mentions enoch twice and only has a very brief passage about nephilim and ben elohim.

Diogenesister

Wow very interesting! I do remember on one occasion thinking the watchtower referred to an apocryphal source - I think it was Enoch because of course the Bible itself mentions the book of Enoch. I remember being surprised but you're right it hasn't really become a talking point. Good find.

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Geehovah this and Geehovah that.

by Foolednomore in

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some jw's used geehovah like a worn out sunday dish rag.

and so as those with a trade or talent.

in my hall my family owned an auto repair shop.

Diogenesister

I hate the weird pronunciation. When I was young it was said quickly, the way other words are spoken in our country.

J'hoevah

Now as OP says it's drawn out GEEEE HOOOE VAH🙄

And he's always the Grand this or that...the Grand engineer, the Grand designer, The Grand pub landlord, The Grand Bookmaker, The Grand war lord. Anything basically.

Carlawhy do they say jehovah god?-

That's another piece of weirdery. Why Jehovah God, not God Jehovah. That's not regular English. I think it's a hangover of them all being descended from krauts. I wouldn't say my Andrew husband, I'd say my husband Andrew etc It's title then name🙄

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Loyd has made a statement on Facebook

by pistolpete in

here is a copy of loyd's facebook latest comment.

https://m.facebook.com/lloydevanscedars/posts/346085697519910.

Diogenesister

The charity I have been supporting is Baptist Slavic Mission. They have planted nearly 100 small congregation-led churches there since the 1970's. We built additions to three homes of pastors so that they could take in 10 orphans each so that they could have a shot at a normal family and have children themselves one day and raise them with love.

I know its not much....but it is something.

No Sea Breeze this is NOT not much....it's everything to those kids....their very lives. I was in care for a while as a kid when my Dad went into a psychiatric hospital. I was groomed and the home has long been closed down for child abuse (amongst other awful things they did) so my blood ran cold when you described the kids being 'discharged' at 15 with 150 quid - alone and vulnerable and going into prostitution to survive.
This is incredible work you do. I can't tell you how grateful I am to people like you who care because there's no one more vulnerable and unprotected than a care kid😥

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Marc O'Donell's statement: Lloyd and the conflict of Interest

by Diogenesister in

as expected from a man who prioritizes the most vulnerable members of our community, marc has made a sober statement that explains why there's a deep conflict of interest between lloyds recent behaviour and the work they do at jw watch.

you can read it here:.

public statement of mark o’donnell.

Diogenesister

Ray Franzt

Sorry just quick question - So did this grooming incident happen before his marriage or have I got it completely confused?

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Marc O'Donell's statement: Lloyd and the conflict of Interest

by Diogenesister in

as expected from a man who prioritizes the most vulnerable members of our community, marc has made a sober statement that explains why there's a deep conflict of interest between lloyds recent behaviour and the work they do at jw watch.

you can read it here:.

public statement of mark o’donnell.

Diogenesister

SBF And Kim Silvio should be praised for speaking out. But overall Mark’s statement is good.

I don’t like the statement from Ortez at all. I don’t care how many hours he has put into the documentary. If he truly puts victims first then he should state categorically that Lloyd will play no part in it. He asks for time to work out the “details”, but excluding Lloyd from the project is not a “detail”.

Agree 100%. Mark should have mentioned support for Kim especially as she's feeling pretty low right now. She's probably copping hell from The Devotees and being right still doesn't make what she did easy.

Ortez re tweeted Mark O'Donnell's statement - which is a bit nauseating because it means he's basically hedging his bets. What a creep. This isn't about standing by your mates. He can stand by him privately & be a friend, while at the same time addressing the fact that Lloyd should no longer be advocating for victims of CSA & rape, statutory or otherwise, and definitely should not be interviewing them. At least untill he gets therapy and educates himself about the Thai situation. There are 800,000 child prostitutes out of a total of nearly 2 million. That's almost HALF OF THEM.

Ortez simply has his eye on the main chance imho.

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Marc O'Donell's statement: Lloyd and the conflict of Interest

by Diogenesister in

as expected from a man who prioritizes the most vulnerable members of our community, marc has made a sober statement that explains why there's a deep conflict of interest between lloyds recent behaviour and the work they do at jw watch.

you can read it here:.

public statement of mark o’donnell.

Diogenesister

Ray Franzt All 3 of them are totally corrupt and not only they offered Lloyd a hiding place in Wilmslow, our congregation, but also crucial advise how to escape to Croatia and avoid criminal charges

Do you know the name of the young girl involved? Was she a JW? If he was from your congregation did you know about all this when he left?

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Marc O'Donell's statement: Lloyd and the conflict of Interest

by Diogenesister in

as expected from a man who prioritizes the most vulnerable members of our community, marc has made a sober statement that explains why there's a deep conflict of interest between lloyds recent behaviour and the work they do at jw watch.

you can read it here:.

public statement of mark o’donnell.

Diogenesister

I knew there was something he was struggling with psychologically, because of the way his weight yo-yo'd from video to video when he made them monthly, or at least less often.

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Marc O'Donell's statement: Lloyd and the conflict of Interest

by Diogenesister in

as expected from a man who prioritizes the most vulnerable members of our community, marc has made a sober statement that explains why there's a deep conflict of interest between lloyds recent behaviour and the work they do at jw watch.

you can read it here:.

public statement of mark o’donnell.

Diogenesister

I think it says a lot that following radio silence from Mark on Twitter, Lloyd unfollowed him. He is so narcissistic he cannot understand that he's put mark in an impossible position and that Marks priority has to be the women & kids he advocates for.

This could have been Lloyds moment to build bridges. To say he understands how these CSA victims & their families feel and that he's going to A) educate himself around "sex work" and its cost to the women who engage in it and B) that he's going to get some couples councilling & around porn addiction etc (lord knows he has the money).

He could have come back even stronger.

Actually people were surprised Mark was a volunteer and didn't get paid. The only person Lloyd has ever given money to is his professional video editor. One you tuber tweeted he's lost patreon money because he wouldn't come out in support of Lloyd. They have literally replaced eight leaders who must not be questioned with one. Its bizarre for those of us who know him of old.