She's obviously staying with him for the money.
The way they've both behaved toward Kim Silvio is appalling. Kim and Mike if I were you I'd stay well away from it - I think you've been trolled.
Anyone who donates to that narcissist is a fool.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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It says the iPhone messages were sent on the 18th January, so that’s before the Marko leak.
No because he leaked those original screenshots years ago, didn't he? And his wife is the one she sent these texts to? She must have known he might leak them....
SBF Are the podcasts' still available?
Yes they are. They were originally called EXJW podcast and Louise had to change it to EXJW Community podcast. I'll find a link The offending one was called "Speak out". You can find it on other platforms
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/s05e01-speak-out/id1352020805?i=1000403590038
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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I suppose if it's real claiming it's fake is all he can do now. Otherwise he's finished. If it's real it would also be in character.
WHAT WORRIES ME ABOUT THEM
I would like to ask Mike and kim if they've established who this guy is, if as they claim he has no social media accounts. How do we know he's not some crazy troll? After all Mike and kim don't speak Croation and it can be really hard to asses someone's personality when they speak another language - especially over Skype etc Has anyone in Croatia verified who he is IN PERSON??
Also, why would Dijana send her cousin these texts if the cousin has already caused problems by allowing her husband to tweet the 14 year old girl chat screenshots?
I mean would YOU trust someone who had made those public? Unless of course you WANTED them made public...which leads me to in favour of it's being true....
WHY I THINK THEYRE TRUE
Second: It is strange Dijana hasn't come out and completely denied these messages are false. I don't mean a patreon post, that could be him.
I mean if the whole thing is fake you'd think she'd be on video by now utterly repudiating the whole thing. This makes me think it's true....
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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I know posting this seems mean. But I feel so angry with the way he's treated SO many people over the years. The way he's been able to control everyone and laud himself as THE expert given he was an elder for a couple of months and wrote an autobiography (which many have done before).. He's stolen people's ideas (example Neil Gardner) and used their work to earn money without ever sharing the proceeds (example Vince Deporter the SpongeBob artist)
But I'm also annoyed with us for allowing it (although Simon took a stand). He's been a bully his whole life...that's why I'm re posting this.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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SBF Great to see a video from Katie Kitten again. I had no idea he pushed Louise away too. He’s got a lot to answer for.
Katie (Louise) and Lara Kaputt from Australia who did a lot with CSA survivors with Steven Unthank had been running the JW community podcast for a few years. They did a podcast where they said something not complementary about Lloyd (I think around BCG) and so Lloyd got the original owner of the podcasts' name (who'd had no connection with it for years) to shut it down completely.
Louise Laura et all had to start JW community podcast, but of course lost a lot of their subscribers because Lloyd did a number on them after he took it away.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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Dijana will NEVER be destroyed because she will taken care of by all of us🤬
I thought he was on something when he did that "I need a break" video. He was a different person, I'd say it's Amitriptyline he's on. If he isn't the incredible change in his persona would lead me to believe he's got a personality disorder. If you're raised by a narcissistic parent plus the damage watchtower does to some people's psyche is a LOT.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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Watchtower and Watch Tower stockholders do not receive returns from owning stock. It gives them voting rights only, and that for corporate officers. It gives them no say in doctrine or anything else. They can be deprived of their shares at will. Even if they attend the annual meeting, they must fill out a proxy first. Proxies always give the Governing Body or their representatives power to vote their shares. It is for legal form only
Yes Vienne. There's no conspiracy here. The truth is much simpler. Peter Bonnachi the ex Bible Student is just another stooge for Lloyd. A saddo he used in order to get in to Warwick. He stayed rent free with him locally and obviously got the pathetic man to report the VAA to the police and cause trouble for them.
In the same way he rang up the BBC reporter and told them not to interview Marc Latham when Mark had been working on the CSA issues (maybe IICSA connected?). Anyway just indicative of his jealousy of any other Hack-tivism he's not benefitting financially or otherwise from.
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Marc O'Donell's statement: Lloyd and the conflict of Interest
by Diogenesister inas expected from a man who prioritizes the most vulnerable members of our community, marc has made a sober statement that explains why there's a deep conflict of interest between lloyds recent behaviour and the work they do at jw watch.
you can read it here:.
public statement of mark o’donnell.
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Me Ortez re tweeted Mark O'Donnell's statement - which is a bit nauseating because it means he's basically hedging his bets. What a creep. This isn't about standing by your mates. He can stand by him privately & be a friend, while at the same time addressing the fact that Lloyd should no longer be advocating for victims of CSA & rape, statutory or otherwise, and definitely should not be interviewing them. At least untill he gets therapy and educates himself about the Thai situation. There are 800,000 child prostitutes out of a total of nearly 2 million. That's almost HALF OF THEM.
Ortez simply has his eye on the main chance imho.
If he ever reads this (unlikely) I just want to apologise to Javier. Obviously I can't know what was going through his head at the time and should not have speculated. He was probably trying to figure out from a legal standpoint how he was going to handle this. I expect he needed to take legal advice.
Lloyd has refused to resign from the project and is going to challenge the request for him to do so legally. Using his wealth to force Javier and co. to back down. And Javier is supposed to be his best friend?! He seems incapable of putting himself in others shoes.
Either way I sincerely apologise to Javier - I need to be less trigger happy on the keyboards and exhibit some patience.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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I actually think it's not necessarily what he did, the video car crash etc
It's exjw after exjw coming out of the woodwork and saying how badly he's treated them. I mean there are hundreds. I'm not joking. Even if it's an arrogant nasty post to some poor rando on Reddit. It's as I say his total inability to take ANY kind of criticism. Even gentle chiding among a whole sea of praise. Nope! I am displeased I will DF you from my cult!
What I really hate is the way he's always tried to create public pile on's on people who disagree with him. He weaponizes his viewers/fans. It's so nasty and frankly dangerous.
Can you imagine this man as a power hungry elder? Can you imagine what he'd do to you if you crossed him?