Gerrit Losche's infamous deposition is on that list if anyone wants to download it to show family/JWs etc
Diogenesister
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Hines v. Watchtower, et al, Plaintiff's Opposition to GB's Motion to Dismiss
by DNCall inlast friday, plaintiff hines' opposition to the above motion was filed.
it appears to me that the zalkin firm eviscerates the gb's motion.
in plaintiff's memorandum of law, it is clearly presented that the elements of hines' complaint are of the type protected by ny law against motions to dismiss.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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I think in this instance Lloyd was right. Interviewing an exjw who happened to have an Onlyfans account in the normal scheme of things wouldn't at all reflect badly on someone's child abuse campaigning. Not at all.
Now calling out publicly whoever sent him the email, well, he has form in that and is the sort of thing that leaves a very unpleasant taste in the mouth. He attempted to do that with Kim and was actually the point of the car crash video he made. Aside from making money his main objective in that was to make Kim S a pariah.
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Miniimizing 'Punishment' - marrying a non-JW
by doasthouwilt ini’d like to marry my best friend of 30+ years, turned ‘secret’ girlfriend of 1 ½ years who is a jehovah’s witness, born into it, baptized and an active ‘pioneer’.
our marriage would happen prior to letting any of her jw friends and cohorts know that we are together.
once married she may simply come forward and ‘admit’ or we may wait until it’s found out – one way or the other, the reason for this marriage is not customary – i am hoping that by doing so she can avoid being ‘marked’ or possibly ‘disfellowshipped’ once our relationship is no longer a secret and due to our already being married at that point, there can be no notion from society elders about her ending the relationship.
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FedupJW Those are the EXACT words my father, who was an elder truly deserving of the term shepherd said. He was pretty well hated by other "elders" for his realistic take on Da Troof.
These, for me, where the most dangerous people.....the ones that brought me in to the religion. The ones who were so utterly good that wherever they were, that is where I wanted to be. Not the doctrine. Not the social life. Wherever those saintly people where *had* to be where God was at.
.......and speaking of which DATW, there's many a reason for a dub being a dub! Your girlfriend may, of courses have family she doesn't want to be separated from (not least her Son which I think some may have missed). One major reason your GF may be able to cope with her lifestyle is compartmentalisation. Its something all JWs do to a greater or lesser extent. It's a coping strategy she's learned over the years.
I'm hoping the elders cut her some slack and make allowances for the lack of single brother right now (even Watchtower has made mention of it). If the Cong Is judgemental after your marriage, it may help to wake your wife up ,- as lack of love, rather than doctrine, is often the motivation for researching the religion in the first place.
Neph87 I understand the heart wants what the heart wants but she could have informed the elders about your relationship and stayed away from fornication before you got married.
Kind of this ^^^Of course, you guys could bite the bullet and actually invite the JWs to your wedding?!! Just bluff it out, act like the adults in the situation and say all are welcome but it's going ahead regardless....just an idea. I'd be interested to hear if anyone has experienced that and whether elders can actually forbid you from the religions point of view, to marry ? (supposing you're 'scripturally free' to do so). Any elders out there care to chime in on this please?
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Miniimizing 'Punishment' - marrying a non-JW
by doasthouwilt ini’d like to marry my best friend of 30+ years, turned ‘secret’ girlfriend of 1 ½ years who is a jehovah’s witness, born into it, baptized and an active ‘pioneer’.
our marriage would happen prior to letting any of her jw friends and cohorts know that we are together.
once married she may simply come forward and ‘admit’ or we may wait until it’s found out – one way or the other, the reason for this marriage is not customary – i am hoping that by doing so she can avoid being ‘marked’ or possibly ‘disfellowshipped’ once our relationship is no longer a secret and due to our already being married at that point, there can be no notion from society elders about her ending the relationship.
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Yes you definitely will not be required to divorce! I'm happy for you both ☺️(You seem like you have your head screwed on) with one proviso: Just be aware If you ever have kids there could be issues with how you raise them..... as you don't believe and she does. Because she will no doubt wish to raise them in. However since you both know each other so well I'm sure you'll work things out.
As to problems post marriage the only issue will be when they take her in for a grilling (which they will). I would definitely advise going with her as her husband and you do the answering because - and I can guarantee this - they will ask her if you consummated your relationship before marriage....
......and how often.
........And what ya did....😳Yup.That's how they roll.
As a believer she will struggle to lie and if she admits what she's done she will be disfellowshipped (not for marriage but for sleeping with each other prior to marriage). If you guys deny this you should be golden. They may take away her pioneer privileges for a bit, but they'll soon be reinstated.
Good luck and best wishes!
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Wouldn't that be something if Lloyd gets in trouble for pretending he is the Karlo Novosel Law Firm? Does Croatia have a law for that? Surely they do have laws for that if he did fake a legal document. It was
Totally fake. That lad is a friend of a friend para legal who probably agreed to say use my name if it comes on top. So might be hard to prove unless the laws are particularly strict in which case that lad will loose his job.
All fake like that whole activism stick he's got going on. Fooled all the newbies. He's no activist just makes daft videos. He uses the research of others and most videos he just repeats the same stuff ad nauseum to increase ad revenue.
Simon's more of an activist than he'll ever be.
The real activists were Mark O Donnell and Kim Silvio, Barbara Anderson, Paul Grundy, Steven upthank and Lara Kaputt etc Rick FearON, the folks at the protests etc working hard in the background, for nothing, & doing the real leg work. Mike and Kim help actual people. Lloyd publicly stated he refuses to help people personally because there's no cash in it.
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Hi again
by Lee Marsh init is nice to see some familiar faces here.
for those who don't know who i am my last id was lady lee.
thought i would drop by and say hello; see how people are doing.
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Well you look pretty beautiful to me, too. I can tell.
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Hi again
by Lee Marsh init is nice to see some familiar faces here.
for those who don't know who i am my last id was lady lee.
thought i would drop by and say hello; see how people are doing.
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Oh my goodness I'm so sorry Lady Lee. Oh the treatments are hell. People use throwaway comments like bravery but when you see someone go through the treatments it is brave. Incredibly brave. I hope this round gets better. I dearly hope you don't get sick. I'm so sorry.😔
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Hi again
by Lee Marsh init is nice to see some familiar faces here.
for those who don't know who i am my last id was lady lee.
thought i would drop by and say hello; see how people are doing.
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Wow you're posts are amazing! Some of the best I ever read Lady Lee!
I was thinking of you the other day & I wondered whether you are Lee Elders wife??
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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That's interesting non coin collector
Has Lloyd taken the "I'm taking a break" video down? If so has anyone got a copy because that is a far more damning video than many people realise.
Why?
Because he made that video after his wife said she didn't want him going to sex workers anymore. Yet He claimed he needed a break for his mental health. That's so manipulative.
Why?
Because what he was really doing was getting his viewership on side, and therefore against his wife's wishes, in order to defiantly, publicly warn her to back off prior to doing exactly what she'd pleaded him not to do. And what a way to do so....by going to the hooker capital of the world*.
But it's about his mental health.
And that's just the why. When you watch the how, the narcissism really becomes apparent. The cold, hard anger he displays in that video is toward his wife. His first victim, remember.
*It was his behaviour toward his wife that Kim Silvio broke down during her video and why, eventually, I believe she decided to go public.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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- He's the
giftgrift that keeps on giving.
There. FTFY
- He's the