Diogenesister

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  I trained an AI on the Young People Ask book, and asked it various questions. Here are the articles it came up with

  by ComingOutaMyCage in

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  full resolutions here: https://imgur.com/a/hph7szl.

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  That's really funny.😂

  I watched a TED talk the other day where an engineer was claiming AI is going to kill humanity.

  I think we don't have to worry for a while yet.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  As much as it’s been said that Lloyd never changed his JW mindset, it’s abundantly clear that in many ways Dijana still has the mentality of a pioneer sister who wanted a husband and family.

  I agree. Few women would deal with this level of humiliation. It's also about money since she would have been raised very modestly.

  Reading Lloyds JW history I find it hard to believe he ever really 'believed' it. Masturbation is one thing - even that wracks most JWs with such guilt they won't accept 'privileges' but online sex, porn and even in person prostitution? - (I'm absolutely sure he engaged in this pre marriage). Few men who trully believe would have a conscience that allowed them to become an elder or MS and at the same time engage in that. It's always been about power for him.

  The argument was that they personally knew many people that were helped out of JW by LE's videos

  Again, total rubbish. If they were ready to watch apostate videos at that level, if Lloyds weren't there they would have seen any number of other videos by other apostates, saying the same stuff and researched by men many years ago. Who never took a red cent for their efforts.
  

  Not to mention people usually read before they watch pure apostate videos. JWfacts.com, this site, Rays work, Randy's & Barbara's sites and more recently Reddit posts, are more likely their first foray into the exjw world. Even articles/video documentaries by the mainstream media are likely to wake people up first, being apostate free.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Interesting Lloyd has been reduced to doing a sort of telephone "Questions from readers"🤔

  I wonder how long before he uses the famous Watchtower technique of formulating his own.....🤨
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  In ancient Israel, committing adultery with a neighbor’s wife carried the death penalty for both the man and the woman. Polygamy, as practiced in ancient Israel, was not an open marriage.

  The trouble is it wasn't just marrying another woman. It also included so-called 'concubines,' which is another word for random woman you are not married to. As long as these women weren't married to another man, the Bible doesn't seem to have an issue.
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  LouAlso if her dad was an alcoholic then she will have been trained as a child in a trauma bond accidentally because alcoholics offer intermittent emotional availability.

  Lou I enjoy "The fairy's" videos. I'm the adult child of an alcoholic with all of those issues as my mum left us and so I'd to care for my alcoholic dad and little brother at 8. I was running a household by 9 with terrible self esteem - both parents accusing me of being just like the other. Then Scapegoated by my stepdad, because he had to keep my mother's past a secret, including us, which made him angry.

  No wonder the self hatred of witness theology appealed to me...I didn't even think I was worthy to pray.

  It's taken me until nearly 50 to get some fight. I understand Dijana's fearful of her kids being without a family. Her brother is gone, Lloyds family shun them and if there's alcoholism in her parents background, she's fearful of relying on them

  No wonder she takes him in. She doesn't want anyone to feel rejected or her children to be hurt by loosing a parent.😔
  

  This whole "bunker" thing was bullshit from the beginning and I told him so. When you think of a crazed maniac stuck in a "bunker" where does your mind take you? That's right the end of world war two with you know who.

  New Boy you cracked me up🤣
  

  
  
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  Anyone else heard this?

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  the other day, i chatted to an elderly woman and her daughter who was about 45-50. total strangers.. we were discussing covid when the daughter said, "my neighbor studies with jw's, and the jw's told her 3 months before the virus started, that they had to stop going from door to door because something was coming.".

  i've never heard anything like this before - have you?.

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  One thing JWs definitely don't have....is the gift of prophecy.;

  Ha ! That's an idea....ask them to challenge their neighbour on the many times watchtower is on record as getting things badly wrong. Next week's Bible study will be cancelled.

  It was only a matter of time before they predicted the pandemic! Ask them to find it in print and they won't.
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Says him and Tibor are looking for a larger industrial sized space to rent. Thanks the Patrons again because they’re paying for it, not him

  What he really means (whilst claiming he needs donations coz it's a work space), he needs it Industrial sized for his industrial-sized ass to live in full time. Tight wad won't need to pay his own rent🙄
  
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  I think Dijana's parents have finally snapped. You don't get to leave Dijana & the kids and use our home to trash our religion, too.
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  GIVE AN EXAMPLE of the best writing you've ever read

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  is there one line of prose or poetry that stopped you dead in your tracks and haunted your mind for days on end?

  is there a line, a paragraph or a book that feeds your soul and there is no end to its craving?

  share it with all of us.

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  I love Earnest Hemingway. If Shakespeare is an artist, Hemingway is a craftsman. A draughtsman with words.

  This always touches me with its truth:

  "If people bring so much courage to this world the world has to kill them to break them, so of course it kills them. The world breaks every one and afterward many are strong at the broken places. But those that will not break it kills. It kills the very good and the very gentle and the very brave impartially. If you are none of these you can be sure it will kill you too but there will be no special hurry.”
  
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  Re: Lloyds involvement with CSA & domestic abuse & Leah's video.

  Whilst I accept we none of us are perfect and we all make mistakes, Lloyd refuses to listen to the feelings of his wife, CSA/DV & abuse victims and women in general. So in my opinion it's not so much what Lloyd has done, but rather that he utterly refuses to understand and accept the connection between CSA, domestic abuse, sexual coersion etc and the sex industry, particularly in Thailand and Eastern Europe.

  I realise this was recorded in 2021 but am I right in thinking they've just released it? If Lloyd had asked them to put some kind of disclaimer at the beginning, I might have some respect for him. There might be some way back. But he didn't.

  If there are some single guys out there, particularly who've just left the org, who think to themselves "well I've been to a massage parlour in my hometown, that could be me they're judging..."

  No, it couldn't. YOU aren't an advocate for domestic abuse victims forced to remain married, who tried to force an open marriage on your wife. YOU aren't an advocate for CSA who visits sex workers in Thailand - over half of which are my minors or who began their "career" as minors. YOU haven't taken donations from CSA victims and used it to pay for potentially trafficked women. YOU haven't tried to bully, doxx, smear & litigate those who know you, who've tried to save you from yourself and call your behaviour out.....as you claim people should do to others.