Diogenesister

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  Another HUGE Building Project

  by pontoon in

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  i haven't been on site in a while, don't know if has been discussed but here is a link.

  https://rcbizjournal.com/2022/09/29/watchtower-bible-world-headquarters-project-in-ramapo-moves-ahead.

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  I think they're aiming to create their own Christian Watchtower television channel 24 hours etc multiple languages for which dubbies will pay subscription. Also they will out-source work for profit. Either by renting their equipment to worldlies, or making video/film for worldlies to order by selling the labour of dubs working at Ramapo.
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  Why isn't this forum growing like reddit exjw??

  by nowwhat? in

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  admittedly it 90% crap over there but still they are up to 80k in subscribers.

  over here it's the same half dozen or so that posts something, including myself.

  why is that?.

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  I miss Cofty , we didn't agree on much but he was always polite and factual

  Jan

  Me too, Jan. There's a few here I miss. Someone mentioned youngsters using apps and I agree there. I think our demographic is a little older (not all of course) and sadly you do hear about people passing, too😔
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  New rules for inactive ones?

  by Lynnie in

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  have the rules changed as far as disfellowshipping inactive ones when it's clear they are engaged in "wrongdoing?".

  i have a cousin in seattle who was disfellowshipped about 3 years ago or so and then went through the process of being reinstated (took only 6 months) and then proceeded to fade and do nothing regarding the jw's .

  fast forward to today and now she's had a baby out of wedlock and the uber jw elder father and mother are all on board somehow.

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  It's also because this is likely to be their only grandchild given your cousin's age and her sisters position (unless there's others you didn't mention). If she helps care for the father - even nominally - they'll use the old 'necessary business' clause🙄
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  ToH His main problem is that I don't think he can laugh at himself. If he could, he'd have material to spare.

  Bingo! I guessed he'd base his comedy on his JW years. The problem is when he's exhausted the few JW gags that are 'accessible' to non-JWs, where's he going to get his material from? It's also interesting that for a man whose such a perv, he's actually really straight-laced. All that performative respectability really gives me the Willie's about him. I like comedians who are really straight talking. No pretense.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Tibor is Gracious." WTF? What person walking down the street would have any clue what that means, or care?

  Oh don't 😂I mean I get it's a signal for Tibor to insert a link when he edits, but "gracious"???!! Really? More like 'If Tibor is a donut' he'll allow Cedar's to forever associate his name with the most lame catchphrase in history!!

  It's funny, when it started quite a few of us had the temerity to gently point out that saying it made him sound like a prize numpty 😱 That didn't go over too well with the Old Bedswerver, as you can imagine!!😂😂
  
  
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  How many preaching hours are real

  by Hellothere in

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  how much of the preaching hours in yearly report you think are real?

  they always have high numbers preaching hours.

  probably increase every decade.

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  The visiting elderly is the one part of ministry that should be done.

  Absolutely. But it isn't because you can't count hours on it. Sickening.
  

  Stan : book sales were quite profitable paid for petrol in my car...

  Interesting! I wonder if it was seen as a job during the 30s40s50s etc?? Like other door to door salesmen, because that's why they started door to door, it was just a sales technique. Nothing to do with the Bible.

  I did know people who only counted hours actual door knocking (except for lunch or coffee break). But that was back in the 80s. By the 90s there seemed to be lots of little tricks like leaving tracts in libraries and launderettes miles apart etc We never drove only cycled or walked when preaching, so at least it never cost us petrol money.
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  Christmas, yes or no ?

  by jhine in

  1. watchtower
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  i have just started to steep the mincemeat for my mince pies in dark rum .

  christmas is a big deal in my family and circle of friends.

  however among ex jws it's a bit different or so l understand.

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  Absolutely I adore Christmas. When I was little I experienced Christmas at my grandparents, so I have fond memories.

  After I left I l volunteered a few times with shelter to give me something to do that didn't make me feel guilty. Then I had my kids and didn't have an excuse, so I went all out (husband's never been a JW). I would even go to church with my brother in Cambridge to hear the choristers at Kings😔

  I love the food but most of all I love the music more than anything and always have, so it's wonderful to be able to sing with gusto (yes I'm one of them!) now I know Watchtower is wrong!!
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  JeffT In deed, for some, the victimization may not even start until they are adults.

  Jeff everything you wrote was brilliantly put. I disassociated from a lot in my childhood but it all came out in my life choices related to low self esteem that boarded on hatred. Of course the self worth related to JW doctrine plays right in to that.

  In fact as a kid I had (in some cases still have) coping mechanisms that are very similar and so mistaken for Asbergers and my psychologist/Doctor wasn't sure whether I have it, or rather its trauma based. That's very common apparently. There's so much I wish I could say about it but suffice to say you put it perfectly.😟
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  RayF I got that off another exjw but the contact number and email I posted earlier are accurate

  RaymondF I posted it on here a few pages back and although I would imagine most of the senior members will remain the same (& their numbers) he's obviously been involved with them for some time, because that's the 2021 zoom meeting and this year's was in person. I wonder if some of us should just step in since it's going to be hard for him to attend regularly (now meetings are in person) living in Croatia.

  That's a other reason I don't understand why he's in this group. He has Croation citizenship now & is no longer resident here.

  Although groups are open to anyone I believe you need to request attendance, if anyone is interested.
  
  
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  Songs that help recovery

  by peacefulpete in

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  are there songs that seem to speak to you?

  maybe especially when leaving the church and losing friends and family.

  i still pause when i hear hennly's heart of the matter.

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  Diogenesister

  Silent_lamb_silent_no_more

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