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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  I don't think Lloyd Evans has any principles besides self-preservation and promotion in order to earn himself a small to medium sized fortune. He thinks that having publicly woke principles will get him quicker and easier to this goal.

  Absolutely. He betrays his ignorance by the use of laughably antiquated, or even offensive, terms he uses when discussing topics that he (and here's where the 'woke' comes in) knows next-to-nothing about yet attempts to wade in to in order to get brownie points. In true Lloyd fashion he usually ends up alienating the very people he was attempting to brown nose.....

  .....anyway...back to his recent You tube response..

  1. How can he have been "waiting" for a summons that stated his whole case was nonsensical?

  2. Did his lawyers really make the deadline?

  3. As to the six figure income he is clearly attempting to split hairs between his company earnings and his personal salary (that he pays himself from his company account)

  3. Kim's Reddit post has been confirmed as accurate by multiple witnesses including producer Bob, so that's a non starter

  4. Many of the Mag.7 have gone out of their way to separate his current scandal (based on his own claims) from the old email grooming rumours.

  5. Going abroad to Thailand and having sex with sex workers is by definition sex tourism. The lines of consent are completely blurred when rich middle aged white men buy sex from young third world sex workers. Especially in a country where over a million kids are trafficked into it in the first place. Discussions around the ethics of this by a man claiming to advocate against sexual abuse are more than valid.

  I'm sure others more knowledgeable than me will wade in to his outrageous claims....
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Simon: I wonder how much of his "wages" are also pissed away on only-fans and porn?

  TOH Good point. How much of his Patreon "salary" is being spent by his wayward penis? We must assume that he has yet to obtain mastery over it.

  How much? A lot.

  Think about it. He lives in a country with a low cost of living relative to his patron's homeland's. The $20 superchat goes quite a bit further than in its country of origin.$

  He's never (until very recently) had to pay rent or a mortgage, which is the biggest out-going for most people. $$

  Second biggest out-going is a car - again, paid for by a donor.$$$

  Travel expenses and lodging paid for/provided by donors.$$

  Costs relative to his productions, such consulting a lawyer or paying for a 'court reporter' were zero given volunteers in multiple continents provided their skills and services for free all whilst he pockets all the in-show cash donations and monthly patreon pledges $$$$

  Food: Dijana's parents raise chickens and have a 'market garden'/small holding - again I'm willing to bet he rarely has to pay out to keep the kids in groceries

  So...where the heck did the six figure salary go?? (You know that gal with the Zuccini? She's just pulled up in a brand new Audi Q8)
  

  Oh and Haircuts....er....apparently he pays for those🤔
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  Jehovah's Witnesses no longer count time. How is this news affecting moral and meeting attendance at local congregations?

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  no more watchtower and awake mags every 2 weeks to place.

  no private home book studies.

  no more "essential" spiritual food meals 5x a week.

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  FNM I can see instead of Watchtower asking for time, they will ask for dollars in place of service.

  FoolednoMore Has it in the bag ... the new spirituality will be the "coughing up" class £££$$€€€€€$$$£
  
  
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  Son out?

  by Nantiques in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  our son joined the wts 20 years ago.

  we, his parents and siblings are not jws.

  he is now 41. he knew we were "opposers" from the beginning, and so we were pretty much shunned by him.

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  Nantiques I've always thought of the WTS as a multi-million-dollar book publishing company masquerading as a religion.

  And you'd be exactly right!!

  Do follow Ding & TonusOH's advice & show him exactly what he's been missing all these years - real, unconditional love!
  
  
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  Jehovah's Witnesses no longer count time. How is this news affecting moral and meeting attendance at local congregations?

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  no more watchtower and awake mags every 2 weeks to place.

  no private home book studies.

  no more "essential" spiritual food meals 5x a week.

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  Journeyman Funnily enough, these days I see more interest, speculation and excitement - for good or bad - on here and among other exJWs online than among active JW publishers whenever a change happens in the organisation.

  😂😂Lol I can well believe it! There are a couple of witnesses I speak to very occasionally and they are only defensive toward most enquiries. My only good witness friend only seems to find things vaguely amusing - but then she always has (I think because she has a rich life outside the hall - a real career and good relationships with neighbours and non JW family).
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  The Watchtower—Study Edition | December 2023 ...Are you marriage material?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower—study edition | december 2023. study article 52. young sisters—become mature christian women.

  18 you may choose to get married.

  the qualities and skills that we have discussed will help you to become a capable wife.

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  The best marriages I saw were couples already married - or dating - when one, or both, converted. Possibly because they married a bit later in life. As R & R noted, teen marriages often do not last.
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  Bribing the children to serve--by request!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  bribing the children to serve--by request!

  request from researcher: is it true that children in the early years of the watchtower society, were bribed into the field ministry work to make a profit to have money to spend?

  if this is true, would you know where i could find that information?

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  Atlantis You're incredible! What a find, I had no idea!

  I'm also with Was a New Boy.By the time the 60s, 70s and 80s rolled around, the watchtower had honed it's cult indoctrination tactics to a fine degree. Kids basically suffered from Stockholm syndrome - over identifying with those keeping their young minds captive and so terrified of the consequences of not cooperating, bribery was not required!

  Ha! New Boy he admits he was bribed lol! I think the way watchtower 'gives up' on some countries ..can you imagine the apostles doing so?
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  Son out?

  by Nantiques in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  our son joined the wts 20 years ago.

  we, his parents and siblings are not jws.

  he is now 41. he knew we were "opposers" from the beginning, and so we were pretty much shunned by him.

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  Tentatively I too offer my congratulations....it is possible a person can be POMI (physically out, mentally in) but it's unlikely such a person would describe their life as a "reset" and have warmed toward non JW family (as well as embracing the "natural" look lol😜).

  I wish your family all the best and recommend JWfacts.com for further information on the cult of Watchtower and how to help ex members (as well as this site of course!).
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  How in hell can his numbers go up by 100 in just one night when he's

  A) on holiday

  B) Not in communication with his viewers or patrons

  Eejit definitely sat up all night creating email accounts to join his own Patreon on the free tier😂😂😂

  We'll call his free Patreon numbers his PatreCon🤓
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  Abuser/Fugitive JW Pedro Matías Vargas Caught

  by EasyPrompt in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.apfdigital.com.ar/despachos.asp?cod_des=392562.

  "jehovah's witness of st. helena convicted of abuse was captured .

  paraná, oct 13 (apfdigital) .

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  St. Helena is crawling with JWs. Something like one third of the population no?