Diogenesister

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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  This guy is going through a crisis. This pic is totally related to what his mood is right now.

  Either that or it's for his new album cover?🤔
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Since most people know he definitely admitted to the sex tourism part, isn't it quite a gamble going public like this?? Isn't he worried people may assume he's also guilty of the other points, also? Especially if the volunteers who previously worked for him, no longer do so??🤔

  (Sorry for spamming the thread😂)
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Isn't this all cobblers anyway since we know the court required proof he sent all this information to the M7 too, presumably as individuals, regarding defamation claims they each personally made???. We know he hasn't.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  1. Claiming that consent lines are blurred when visiting prostitutes in empoverished country's is not the same as claiming someone is like a rapist. No court would be so obtuse aa to not see this distinction with a difference.

  2. He has never re reimbursed volunteers - he is a You tuber businessman - with a company - yet relies on volunteers! That's exploitation.

  3. He admitted to this via you tube/ face book/Andrew Gold and to ex Cult Baby

  4.Kim certainly has never claimed that. Mark posted any potential evidence to the police as in fact Lloyd publicly stated people should do if they believe they have evidence.

  5.His company accounts / screenshots are available for all to see. His personal salary is another matter.(wonder if he declared all his donations to the tax man eg for the earthquake broken chimney fundraiser!!)

  6.I believe Kim has never stated it was one day!!! How long his video's take is also not something that could be proven on balance of probability (not sure how high the legal bar is for this criminal -civil case lol)

  7.cannot comment on this as I've never seen such a claim

  8. There's a screenshot of his PatreCon site claiming all funds go to activism

  9. He did admit it all lol

  10. Kim has never said or done this (see point 4)

  Lloyd re: 4 & 10 we don't have collective punishment - even in Croatia
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  So I'm guessing he's submitted a new lawsuit since he didn't make the deadline?
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  I don't think Lloyd Evans has any principles besides self-preservation and promotion in order to earn himself a small to medium sized fortune. He thinks that having publicly woke principles will get him quicker and easier to this goal.

  Absolutely. He betrays his ignorance by the use of laughably antiquated, or even offensive, terms he uses when discussing topics that he (and here's where the 'woke' comes in) knows next-to-nothing about yet attempts to wade in to in order to get brownie points. In true Lloyd fashion he usually ends up alienating the very people he was attempting to brown nose.....

  .....anyway...back to his recent You tube response..

  1. How can he have been "waiting" for a summons that stated his whole case was nonsensical?

  2. Did his lawyers really make the deadline?

  3. As to the six figure income he is clearly attempting to split hairs between his company earnings and his personal salary (that he pays himself from his company account)

  3. Kim's Reddit post has been confirmed as accurate by multiple witnesses including producer Bob, so that's a non starter

  4. Many of the Mag.7 have gone out of their way to separate his current scandal (based on his own claims) from the old email grooming rumours.

  5. Going abroad to Thailand and having sex with sex workers is by definition sex tourism. The lines of consent are completely blurred when rich middle aged white men buy sex from young third world sex workers. Especially in a country where over a million kids are trafficked into it in the first place. Discussions around the ethics of this by a man claiming to advocate against sexual abuse are more than valid.

  I'm sure others more knowledgeable than me will wade in to his outrageous claims....
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Simon: I wonder how much of his "wages" are also pissed away on only-fans and porn?

  TOH Good point. How much of his Patreon "salary" is being spent by his wayward penis? We must assume that he has yet to obtain mastery over it.

  How much? A lot.

  Think about it. He lives in a country with a low cost of living relative to his patron's homeland's. The $20 superchat goes quite a bit further than in its country of origin.$

  He's never (until very recently) had to pay rent or a mortgage, which is the biggest out-going for most people. $$

  Second biggest out-going is a car - again, paid for by a donor.$$$

  Travel expenses and lodging paid for/provided by donors.$$

  Costs relative to his productions, such consulting a lawyer or paying for a 'court reporter' were zero given volunteers in multiple continents provided their skills and services for free all whilst he pockets all the in-show cash donations and monthly patreon pledges $$$$

  Food: Dijana's parents raise chickens and have a 'market garden'/small holding - again I'm willing to bet he rarely has to pay out to keep the kids in groceries

  So...where the heck did the six figure salary go?? (You know that gal with the Zuccini? She's just pulled up in a brand new Audi Q8)
  

  Oh and Haircuts....er....apparently he pays for those🤔
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  Jehovah's Witnesses no longer count time. How is this news affecting moral and meeting attendance at local congregations?

  by Balaamsass2 in

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  no more watchtower and awake mags every 2 weeks to place.

  no private home book studies.

  no more "essential" spiritual food meals 5x a week.

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  FNM I can see instead of Watchtower asking for time, they will ask for dollars in place of service.

  FoolednoMore Has it in the bag ... the new spirituality will be the "coughing up" class £££$$€€€€€$$$£
  
  
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  Son out?

  by Nantiques in

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  our son joined the wts 20 years ago.

  we, his parents and siblings are not jws.

  he is now 41. he knew we were "opposers" from the beginning, and so we were pretty much shunned by him.

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  Nantiques I've always thought of the WTS as a multi-million-dollar book publishing company masquerading as a religion.

  And you'd be exactly right!!

  Do follow Ding & TonusOH's advice & show him exactly what he's been missing all these years - real, unconditional love!
  
  
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  Jehovah's Witnesses no longer count time. How is this news affecting moral and meeting attendance at local congregations?

  by Balaamsass2 in

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  no more watchtower and awake mags every 2 weeks to place.

  no private home book studies.

  no more "essential" spiritual food meals 5x a week.

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  Journeyman Funnily enough, these days I see more interest, speculation and excitement - for good or bad - on here and among other exJWs online than among active JW publishers whenever a change happens in the organisation.

  😂😂Lol I can well believe it! There are a couple of witnesses I speak to very occasionally and they are only defensive toward most enquiries. My only good witness friend only seems to find things vaguely amusing - but then she always has (I think because she has a rich life outside the hall - a real career and good relationships with neighbours and non JW family).