We've got cookies!
Just made some. Condensed milk, chocolate chip & vanilla. C'mon Tibor..... I'll send some in the post! 👹😈😈
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We've got cookies!
Just made some. Condensed milk, chocolate chip & vanilla. C'mon Tibor..... I'll send some in the post! 👹😈😈
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T5Thank Pruner I had no clue of this. Well Lloyd should feel right at home then in Croatia ... As a former catholic I want to say this is not been a very good " christian" , they made jesus cried by not turning the other cheek 😁 Don't they know bad catholics don't go to heavens...🤣
Hey and what's really interesting per the link that Pr0ner sent me, is that 99.8% of these time wasting "insult & defamation of reputation" cases that are that are thrown out of court are actioned against journalists and activists in an effort to suppress their free speech !!!
Many are whistleblowers like Kim that powerful politicians and organisations seek to shut down. The article says it's the misuse of the law that's the problem and the richer plaintiffs seek to keep the cases going in order to bleed the défendent dry! There are free speech organisations that raise money to help defendants deal with these frivolous cases.
Lloyd Evans the big activist who claims he speaks "for the Silent majority" seeks to silence his own volunteers!😡😡😡
selena vertolomo, former jehovah's witnesses who was sexually abused in watchtower, went to visit tony morris in north carolina.
selena and her sister call in and explain their position.
callers dial in from around the world and ask plenty of questions.
Does Watchtower sacrifice babies to Jehovah?
Yes ... absolutely it does. And not just babies. Pregnant mothers, elderly cancer patients, leukaemic children, adult accident victims......all in the name of Rutherford's messed up, evil blood doctrine!!
We don't need wacky child sacrifice rumours to accuse watchtower of evil...they do enough already.
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NB out of interest courts give humourous statements far more latitude and a leaflet I read written by an educational institution said quite a few plaintiffs come away with worse reputations than when they began😂
Also, burden of proof is in two parts as follows:-
If the plaintiff can prove the defendant
1. Made a given statement (considered defamatory) the burden of proof is on the défendent to prove :-
2. that the statement did not damage plaintiffs reputation
Burden of proof for 2. In the USA is reversed - Kim & Mikey throw one sentence at old Novosel - New York Times Co.V. Sullivan 1964 😂
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Pr0ner for defamation or libel to be proved you have to prove the person you're suing knowingly told a lie with intent to harm. As in, saw overwhelming evidence that what they were saying was untrue and still said it. His whole defense is "my word against theirs". The problem is that he will have to prove to a judge his word is good enough
I checked and the insult clause in Croatia (as well as a few other places) is considered by the ECtHR as an antiquated law originally aimed at protection of the office of a public, or government figure.
So...the office of the Head Dickhead EXJW??😂
You are correct it has a very high bar in respect of proof. It is not the Civil 'on balance of probabilities' but the criminal 'beyond reasonable doubt'.
So as you say, Lloyd will have to prove that each one of you made statements of fact (not opinions) intended to cause harm - knowing it was untrue.
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LMsAAs with the livestream and other miscalculations such as the Gold interview, he’s not thinking past instant gratification when supportive comments come in. He doesn’t think about the ultimate effect this will all have.
He also likes to assume everyone else is as stupid as he is. Cunning is not the same as genuine intelligence and just because straight talking people take him at his word - initially - doesn't mean he can bluster his way past us with his BS like a bossy school prefect forever🤨
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Jeff 'm confused (happens a lot lately given my health issues )
My lawyers relied on the court issuing a summons for more thorough supporting documentation..."
Ditto me.
Why do his lawyers need the judges say-so to compile Lloyds evidence?
"Relied on" so essentially Waiting for a summons? Did his lawyers know they hadn't applied the law correctly and required the court to tell them they hadn't, before they could spring into action and apply each legal statute perfectly with this 64 page document (complete with translations sent to four other countries & proof defendants received them) per the judges demand of the 3rd Oct?
LMsA Not intentionally trying to sound Churchillian here, but he had a choice - dishonour or war. He chose both
😂 Yes but you're spot on though! Definitely a last minute anger project....the Narcissist can never be wrong!!
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This guy is going through a crisis. This pic is totally related to what his mood is right now.
Either that or it's for his new album cover?🤔
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Since most people know he definitely admitted to the sex tourism part, isn't it quite a gamble going public like this?? Isn't he worried people may assume he's also guilty of the other points, also? Especially if the volunteers who previously worked for him, no longer do so??🤔
(Sorry for spamming the thread😂)
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Isn't this all cobblers anyway since we know the court required proof he sent all this information to the M7 too, presumably as individuals, regarding defamation claims they each personally made???. We know he hasn't.