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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  The 🥸🥸🥸 !!! 😂😂
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  The Ipsilon Media comp. has now his new adress in Zagreb ...Come on ! the court have his new adress . Unless he said that was his business adress and oops forget to tell the court he also lives there?

  Also as an FYI Ipsilon media - despite Lloyds claims to his patron's and subbies that he's wound it up - appears to be very much still "active". At least as of Dec1st, anyway, and as far as I can find evidence of it's status online.
  
  
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  What is worse: 1914 or Beard change

  by Gorb in

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  what is worse for jw's: changing the 1914 doctrine or allowing beards without the right to say what their opinion is?.

  g..

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  Nico. Don't assume doctrine is important to any but a few remaining diehard elderly JW's, it isn't. Everything is up for grabs, there are no sacred cows and nothing matters but the money.

  Make it nice and easy (and dumb) and perhaps the congregations will last and keep contributing.

  I agree with you, Nic......except....if they changed 1914 it would give every Single Pimo, PimQ, and elder-doing-it-for-the-wife-but-too-scared-to-think the exact reason they need to get up and walk out without looking like satan himself and risk loosing his/their families.

  Thoughts?
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  Where is Tony?

  by Athanasius in

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  on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.

  in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.

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  People have said many times if it were an innocent health reason why wouldn't they announce it? However, as DropoffyourkeyLee pointed out, he would be entitled to veterans benefits. Since we know how appalling tight watchtower is (they've refused to pay Bethelites medical fees before, sending sick ones home to avoid doing so) it's conceivable he left to be treated at a veterans hospital if the treatment looked to be expensive - such as chemo etc.

  It's doubtful they'd announce that outcome!
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  Jehovah's Witness Governing Body, (New Light Division) Are Vegetable Oils not more important than Beards?

  by was a new boy in

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  'use vegetable oil and soft margarine in place of animal fat,'.

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101997444?q=vegetable+oil&p=par.

  'when possible, cook with unsaturated vegetable oils.'.

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  I cook with tallow animal fat and would never ever consume margarine that Jehovah recommended fuck your margarine directions Jehovah

  😂Ha ha my old granny always called margarine "axle grease" & I didn't understand why. I found out some years after her death that the WW2 generation, during rationing, had to start eating it, but that prior to that it was literally used to oil the wheels of cars....never used for human consumption!
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  😭🤣🤣🤣☠️👍Tobey5 & Jalapeno
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  Female Angels

  by peacefulpete in

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  for some reason i never noticed this before: .

  5 then the angel who talked with me came forward and said to me, “look up and see what this is that is coming out.” 6 i said, “what is it?” he said, “this is a basket[b] coming out.” and he said, “this is their iniquity[c] in all the land.” 7 then a leaden cover was lifted, and there was a woman sitting in the basket!

  [d] 8 and he said, “this is wickedness.” so he thrust her back into the basket,[e] and pressed the leaden weight down on its mouth.

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  Wow, very interesting.....

  It's funny that (non JW) western kids certainly imagine angels to be female (until they're told otherwise)
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  DerekM.Well the Ken doll genitals probably check out.

  Well......you know what happened to those now, don't you?

  📢📢📢 .......Kim!!!
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  Judicial Committees asking Details of Sex acts

  by blondie in

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  i remember knowing that jcs would ask very personal questions about sex activities.

  this article addresses this: https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/15074595 .

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  Pete It would seem obvious to pasters in most other churches that their role is to offer comfort and support. In the JWs and some others they take on the role of detectives and prosecutors.

  Exactly. There's very little sensitivity & loving guidance and too much punishment and cruelty - especially when dealing with teens and young adults.

  Blues Also the Shepherd book/elder expectations have changed, mostly due to external pressure. In the very recent past elders where doing things such as forcing rape victims to listen to recordings of their assault - with absolutely no censure from the Borg.

  Samcats When I told him we didn't need that kind of information it stopped. Other than that I never had observed any impropriety while on a committee in regard to details about sexual misconduct

  But samcats Why do you think he went into such detail? I'd guess because that was his expectation, either from previous experience or being told that of others. Perhaps your presence prevented intrusive questions, but despite many decent elders like yourself the overwhelming experience of most people has been the opposite.
  
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  DerekM Sometimes I'll call up one of Wally's or someone else's video that I might not otherwise watch and just let it run muted on my laptop while I'm showering or whatever

  Me too. I also let ads run to the end, but I don't know if it helps?

  Seeing Lloyds "speed networking" project made me think - because we know Lloyd never does anything without "Lloyd" in mind - he was looking for free young 'talent' (that kind too, no doubt). Since EXJWs have had a heads up now about him taking advantage of volunteers, he was hoping to find local Croatian's to work for 'the channel' for free, ostensibly to 'help cult victims' and their resume/CV.