i have been asking this question since studying the babylon the great book back in the '60s.
maybe i'm thickskulled, but simply restating that it ended in october or tishri doesn't explain away my reasons for asking the question.
i'm only looking for answers about the date in 1914, and i'm not looking for the typical apostate replies that the year is wrong.. i question october/tishri being the end of the gentile times, and thus the start of jesus' reign, for the following reasons:.
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I appreciate your lengthy attempt to reconcile the 1914 events, but you missed one of the main points. The rider of the white horse rides BEFORE the ride of the fiery-colored horse. per Revelation.
As for your questions about Neb, "times", etc., don't you think these should be a separate thread of your own?
Thanks.
i have been asking this question since studying the babylon the great book back in the '60s.
maybe i'm thickskulled, but simply restating that it ended in october or tishri doesn't explain away my reasons for asking the question.
i'm only looking for answers about the date in 1914, and i'm not looking for the typical apostate replies that the year is wrong.. i question october/tishri being the end of the gentile times, and thus the start of jesus' reign, for the following reasons:.
I would think that my point is fairly obvious. If Jesus wasn't enthroned until sometime in Oct 1914, with time then being allowed for the heavenly war, and then additional time being allowed for Satan to stir up WWI, how does reconcile with the undisputable fact that WWI began, and was well under way by Oct 1914.
Why does this appear so elementary to me, and apparently, so complex to everyone else?
I'll be the first to acknowledge that I may be missing something. That's why I posted this to begin with. I thought I would get help to either understand the obvious, or catch what I was missing. Frankly, it is amazing to me that noone apparently has an answer.
i have been asking this question since studying the babylon the great book back in the '60s.
maybe i'm thickskulled, but simply restating that it ended in october or tishri doesn't explain away my reasons for asking the question.
i'm only looking for answers about the date in 1914, and i'm not looking for the typical apostate replies that the year is wrong.. i question october/tishri being the end of the gentile times, and thus the start of jesus' reign, for the following reasons:.
AND, I should have added:
How does the Revelation Book excerpt explain one single issue or question that I have raised?
i have been asking this question since studying the babylon the great book back in the '60s.
maybe i'm thickskulled, but simply restating that it ended in october or tishri doesn't explain away my reasons for asking the question.
i'm only looking for answers about the date in 1914, and i'm not looking for the typical apostate replies that the year is wrong.. i question october/tishri being the end of the gentile times, and thus the start of jesus' reign, for the following reasons:.
"their"= Society. (Refer to context.)
Have all hardcopy pubs. No CD-ROM.
i have been asking this question since studying the babylon the great book back in the '60s.
maybe i'm thickskulled, but simply restating that it ended in october or tishri doesn't explain away my reasons for asking the question.
i'm only looking for answers about the date in 1914, and i'm not looking for the typical apostate replies that the year is wrong.. i question october/tishri being the end of the gentile times, and thus the start of jesus' reign, for the following reasons:.
Writing to the Society about these questions was obviously considered prior to posting such here. However, I don't want to bother them with questions that may have obvious answers, nor do I want to submit a question based on an erroneous understanding of their teachings.
This is not an issue that involves 2500 year old historical evidence. There are thousands of people alive that lived through WWI. The dates and events are uncontested.
Thus, I must be overlooking something obvious, OR I am incorrect in my understanding of the Society's Revelation interpretation.
Someone please critique the 3rd paragraph of my original post, and tell me whether this extremely brief summary accurately relates the Society's teachings on Revelation?
i have been asking this question since studying the babylon the great book back in the '60s.
maybe i'm thickskulled, but simply restating that it ended in october or tishri doesn't explain away my reasons for asking the question.
i'm only looking for answers about the date in 1914, and i'm not looking for the typical apostate replies that the year is wrong.. i question october/tishri being the end of the gentile times, and thus the start of jesus' reign, for the following reasons:.
Read it. Not sure what I was supposed to get from it???
Yes, there is AN answer, but what is it?
I already know better than to run around contradicting the Society's teachings. That's NOT what I'm doing. Reread my post(s). I'm just asking for someone to explain to me the thought process that I'm obviously missing. It appears that certain historic events occurred prior to the time that they should had, per the Revelation prophecy. So, what am I missing here? It is easy for one person, such as myself, to miss something in error. But I would think that out of all the Bible students who review my post, just one could help me out????
i have been asking this question since studying the babylon the great book back in the '60s.
maybe i'm thickskulled, but simply restating that it ended in october or tishri doesn't explain away my reasons for asking the question.
i'm only looking for answers about the date in 1914, and i'm not looking for the typical apostate replies that the year is wrong.. i question october/tishri being the end of the gentile times, and thus the start of jesus' reign, for the following reasons:.
You've got to be joking? The Society has directed Elders not to think or reason on Society chronology? Why are my questions different from any other Bible questions? What if a householder asked such? Is Society chronology a touchy subject?
And, thanks for the excellent advice! When the Elders and Society refuse to answer a question, I'm to make an issue out of it with the CO??? Right! The next thing I would hear would be an invitation to discuss my question with a 3 man committee...
i have been asking this question since studying the babylon the great book back in the '60s.
maybe i'm thickskulled, but simply restating that it ended in october or tishri doesn't explain away my reasons for asking the question.
i'm only looking for answers about the date in 1914, and i'm not looking for the typical apostate replies that the year is wrong.. i question october/tishri being the end of the gentile times, and thus the start of jesus' reign, for the following reasons:.
GEEEEZZZZ!!! Over 100 reads, and not even a single attempt at reconciling these dates??? This is exactly the same response I've received from various elders for decades. Promises to research the matter and get back to me, but then never a single attempt???
i have been asking this question since studying the babylon the great book back in the '60s.
maybe i'm thickskulled, but simply restating that it ended in october or tishri doesn't explain away my reasons for asking the question.
i'm only looking for answers about the date in 1914, and i'm not looking for the typical apostate replies that the year is wrong.. i question october/tishri being the end of the gentile times, and thus the start of jesus' reign, for the following reasons:.
I'm not sure what an inquiry to the society would accomplish? Its not as if I have discovered something they don't already know. The info that I outlined came straight out of the Babylon the Great book. What I haven't been able to figure out for 35 years is how we conclude that the Gentile Times ended in Oct. of 1914, given all this evidence to the contrary. While the BG book provides all this evidence contrary to the October conclusion, it fails to even address the idea that such evidence IS contrary to the conclusion. Am I missing something so obvious here that it doesn't need to be addressed? That's why I posted this question. What am I overlooking?
i have been asking this question since studying the babylon the great book back in the '60s.
maybe i'm thickskulled, but simply restating that it ended in october or tishri doesn't explain away my reasons for asking the question.
i'm only looking for answers about the date in 1914, and i'm not looking for the typical apostate replies that the year is wrong.. i question october/tishri being the end of the gentile times, and thus the start of jesus' reign, for the following reasons:.
I have been asking this question since studying the Babylon the Great book back in the '60s. Maybe I'm thickskulled, but simply restating that it ended in October or Tishri doesn't explain away my reasons for asking the question. I'm only looking for answers about the date in 1914, and I'm not looking for the typical apostate replies that the year is wrong.
I question October/Tishri being the end of the Gentile Times, and thus the start of Jesus' reign, for the following reasons:
Revelation says the rider of the fiery-colored horse rides AFTER Jesus rides on the white horse. We are also taught that WWI was the result of Jesus' coronation, his throwing Satan to the earth, and Satan and the nations reacting against earth's new King.
Well, if all this occurred in Oct 1914, then how come the assassination that ignited WWI occurred in June. WWI started in July, with most major participants declaring war in August. It can't be said that much didn't occur until Oct., since there had been 3/4 million casualties by Oct 1.
Some interesting facts are that in 607BCE, Jerusalem's wall was breached, the temple destroyed, Jerusalem was burned, and the deportation started all in June to August.
I would welcome any help that doesn't question the year itself. Thanks.
