I liked it but I'm not a good writer so I don't think I'd be able to help write. But one suggestion I have is when armageddon happens. Matt is in class but when I was in school, I'd always thought that once the great tribulation starts, I would no longer be in school. We were suppose to go underground because the governments would make it illegal for us to worship. And we wouldn't resign our faith so we'd have to hide. I'd always pictured that when armageddon comes, all witnesses would be hidden somewhere, kind of like how Noah and his family were protected from the flood. That was just my point of view though. I don't know what others thought. The society wasn't very specific about it. But I do know that we were suppose to stick with our bookstudy group.
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Any interest in helping write a movie script?
by cab1000 ini am not a writer, but i thought it would be fun to write a movie script in which the plot is that the jw's had it right.
it would follow a family or two currently living as faithful witnesses, a family that is not faithful, and worldly people.
the story would then progress into the great tribulation, and then armageddon, and then the paradise.
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by doublelife ini'm on my second reading of steven hassan's combatting cult mind control.
i'm at the last par.
on page 44. it says:.
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I'm on my second reading of Steven Hassan's Combatting Cult Mind Control. I'm at the last par. on page 44. It says:
"People indoctrinated to perform excessive(hours-long) meditation or chanting techniques daily can become psychologically and physiologically addicted to the mind control technique. Such mind-stilling generates strong releases of brain chemicals which cause not only a dissociated mental state but also a "high" similar to that created by illegal drugs."
Now, I've never taken any illegal drugs so I have nothing to compare that high to. But I remember, at times, when I was out in the ministry and would show someone a scripture and explain some "bible truth" to them(such as God's name or the condition of the dead) and they would understand it and their face would light up. When I left that householder and told the rest of the car group my experience, I felt what could be described as a "high". I was always told it was holy spirit. It made me want to preach to someone else right away so that I could get that feeling again. It was the only time while I was a jw that I ever got a feeling like that. But I wasn't meditating or chanting. I was simply showing someone a scripture. So what is the psychological or physiological explanation for this?
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Advise about my mom.
by doublelife ini just got in from seeing avatar and my mom had called.
i called her back.
she wanted to tell me that there was a documentary on a local station about jws.
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Thanks for the feedback.
yknot: I already tried that "Society" verses "the branch office" question. She actually gave a reason other than because they said so. She said something to the effect that the society is the corporate office that handles legal matters and the branch office is the Christian Congregation or something like that. My only response was that they say that now but I remember back when we were first told to no longer say "society" it was because it sounded like a cult to outsiders. She neither argued it nor agreed with it. Just shrugged her shoulders.
blondie: I just got of the phone with my mom and yes, it was Knocking. I remember seeing it when it was making the movie festival rounds. And it was pretty accurate.
So I asked my mom what it said that made the witnesses a cult. She said that it wasn't a lot. Just that there was a woman at the being that said, "They're a cult. They're a cult." And the guy who was doing the documentary said that "they don't do this and they don't do that." And he was just saying it in a negative way. She also said that if she was not a jw and she saw it, she would have the impression that jws were a cult. The more she talked about it, I could tell her defenses where starting to go up. So I turned the topic off of cults and onto how documentaries are suppose to show both sides. And she agreed and said that it was a well done documentary. Then we started talking about other things and she lightened up. It was fascinating hearing her talk about cults and hearing her talk when the cult topic was over with. This is the first time I'm noticing the difference in the cult personality verses her personality.
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Advise about my mom.
by doublelife ini just got in from seeing avatar and my mom had called.
i called her back.
she wanted to tell me that there was a documentary on a local station about jws.
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The show has already aired but I do believe it was PBS.
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Advise about my mom.
by doublelife ini just got in from seeing avatar and my mom had called.
i called her back.
she wanted to tell me that there was a documentary on a local station about jws.
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I just got in from seeing Avatar and my mom had called. I called her back. She wanted to tell me that there was a documentary on a local station about jws. She said that it presented the jw beliefs accurately but made them seem like they were crazy for believing it and were a cult. Her next statement was, "But it still gave a good witness because it accurately presented our beliefs." I wanted to say that no, anyone who watched that would not be drawn it this religion because they would think it's a cult. But I kept my mouth shut. I couldn't stay on the phone with her because my cell gets bad reception but I was wondering if I could use this in some way to get her to talk about cults and mind control. She already knows that I am reading Combatting Cult Mind Control. When she saw it on my night stand she asked if the witnesses were in it and I told her no. Then she said that she was surprised because most people "in the world" would put us in a book like that. Then she said that a cult is someone who follows man and that wouldn't include jws. Anyways, she's a pretty hard core jw and maybe I should keep my mouth shut. But since she watched this documentary tonight I was wondering if I should call her tomorrow and ask her what reasons the program gave that made jws a cult? After she answers she'll want to know why I asked and I could go into what I found in Steven Hassan's book. Of coarse, I wouldn't get argumentative or start accusing the jws of being a cult. I would only discuss what I found in the book. What do ya think? Would that be a good what to go about it? or should I leave it alone?
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What Are You Reading?
by zoiks inok, here's my current list:.
i just finished the greatest show on earth by richard dawkins, and am almost finished crisis of conscience by...some guy.. currently in hand, i have:.
the power of myth, joseph campbell and bill moyers.
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I just finished reading the last volume of Y: The Last Man by Brian K. Vaughan.
Now I'm starting my second reading of Combatting Cult Mind Control by Steven Hassan.
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Free Emergency Wallet Medical ID Card to Print Online
by Hapgood inmy husband is a jw, he has his "no blood" card prominently displayed in his wallet when he opens it.
i am no longer a jw and i am terrified that if an accident should happen to me and i am unable to speak for myself, my wishes that a blood transfusion is acceptable won't be respected.
i found an on-line emergency medical identification card that you can fill out with your medical information.
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Hapgood,
Thanks for the link. Lately, I've been having the same concerns regarding my husband. I'm considering asking my non-jw aunt to be my proxy. It's so messed up that we have to think about this. I feel like I'm betraying my husband by going behind his back and doing this but I know what will happen if I don't and then end up in an emergency situation.
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I when back into my jw mindset today
by doublelife ini sneezed at work and one of my customers said "bless you.
" i wrote down a list of goals i want to accomplish and saying "thank you" when someone tells me "bless you" is on the list.
i froze and quickly censored myself and said "excuse me" instead.
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But only for a second. I sneezed at work and one of my customers said "Bless you." I wrote down a list of goals I want to accomplish and saying "Thank you" when someone tells me "Bless you" is on the list. But I just couldn't do it. I froze and quickly censored myself and said "Excuse me" instead. It's so frustrating.
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Cautious Newcomer
by undertheradar ini am still a member of the jw's organization.
i have been puzzled over some of the teachings for many years but as i seemed to be the only one querying things among my local jw's i felt as if i was going crazy.
i was very relieved to find this site, a few months ago, full of evidence to back up my findings, and so much more.. i am so grateful to you all.. i do not want to leave the organization until i have planted some seeds in my family to open their eyes.
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Welcome!
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Pioneering !
by iknowall558 inquestion :.
why is 'pioneering' a 'privilege' when every jw goes out in ministry anyway.
even those who have lost privileges, or been disciplined, or been reinstated after being disfellowshipped are still expected to go out in the ministry.
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When I was pioneering I was always told by the elders and CO that pioneering was the closest a sister could get to being a MS. It made all of the women pioneers feel really special. But something about that never settled well with me.
The month I was baptized the CO assigned a family from a different circuit to move to our congregation because there were no complete families(both parents plus children) in our cong. We only had single parent families or married couples without children. Anyways, I always felt like everything was a competition between us. (I won't lie, I'll accept the same amount of blame that I accuse her of). We were talking about signing up to pioneer and I got the feeling that she was trying to talk me out of it because she didn't want to do it herself. So after I turned in my application I told her and the first thing she did was turn hers in. My mom watched the whole thing and told me later that night that she could sense the competition that girl had with me. Of course, I had my mom fooled. She thought the competition was one sided.
Wow. That's the first time I admitted to being that type of person. I didn't like myself back then.