Thx for the context. I thought I saw the Deist word somewhere close to your name. My brain is malfunctioning. As an Open Theist, I do not believe God micromanages the world and that free will is libertarian. I reject the meticulous control model of Calvinistic providence, but also the aloof model of impotent Deism. God can and does intervene in our world, but not all the time in everything.
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What say you Christians ???
by wobble init seems to me that most, if not all christians are really hung up on sin and redemption from sin and how naturally evil we all are.. my question, and observation is this : i had nothing to do with whatever you say adam and eve did wrong, i have always, throughout my life, treated whoever i came into contact with compassion, respect and love.. i have lived by the golden rule.. not many people, hand on heart, can say that, i can.. so, is your god going to judge me for the "sin" of some mythical forebears of mine ?
is he going to say that , because i did not believe in him, i willl be judged adversely, even though i lived by the precepts he is supposed to support ?.
all i can say is, if your god is like that, i refuse to worship or acknowledge him.. and i certainly do not want to get to know him.
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Hello
by Chariklo ini am new to this site, just finding my way around.. i've been studying with jw's for about 15 months.
i'm an unbaptised publisher, and until recently never missed a meeting, have been out "on the service" quite a lot.
i've been having difficulties with one of the jw's studying with me and something happened which was just unacceptable.
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godrulz
When is the new Reasoning book out. How hard is it to get one. Does it make the old one obsolete?
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The Christian Onslaught
by satinka in*sigh* i have been noticing lately there are a number of groups of "christians" signing up as members of this forum, with the obvious agenda of gaining converts for their own cult-like religions.
i have been wondering things like:.
hmmm...maybe i'll try ignoring them.. thank you simon for the space to vent.. satinka.
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godrulz
I am not bragging about my self-righteousness, but pointing people to faith in the Lord Jesus Christ alone. Don't like me, but at least be fairer. I am not boasting in my greatness or goodness, but the grace of God. I am dissing the WT when necessary and urging people to follow Scripture/God/Christ. Ad hominem attacks will not silence me. Read every post. I am also asking questions to understand JW mindset, talking about doctrinal issues (original sin) with my fellow Christians, etc. Mature people can agree to disagree and share convictions. It does not seem acceptable due to personal bias against myself. It would be unloving to keep truth to myself or to compromise the Word to be popular. The Holy Spirit alone converts, convicts, convinces, but He does use believers to point people to truth. JWs are not wrong to do so, just wrong for promoting false content.
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Struggling
by anniegirl76 ini have been df-ed for almost 9 years.
just out of curiosity, has anyone decided to find another religion or belief after being jw?
i struggle with my feelings, my mom and brother, aunt, cousins are all jw.
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godrulz
Paul's letters are Scripture and they circulated in the first century, even before the canon was formalized/finalized. Evangelical beliefs such as trinity, deity of Christ/resurrection/virgin conception, salvation by grace through faith apart from works, spiritual gifts (Pentecostal), etc. do trace to the beginning of the church. In contrast, Mormon and JW distinctives have no precedent until the 1800s (except JW Arian concepts, Christ as creature).
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What say you Christians ???
by wobble init seems to me that most, if not all christians are really hung up on sin and redemption from sin and how naturally evil we all are.. my question, and observation is this : i had nothing to do with whatever you say adam and eve did wrong, i have always, throughout my life, treated whoever i came into contact with compassion, respect and love.. i have lived by the golden rule.. not many people, hand on heart, can say that, i can.. so, is your god going to judge me for the "sin" of some mythical forebears of mine ?
is he going to say that , because i did not believe in him, i willl be judged adversely, even though i lived by the precepts he is supposed to support ?.
all i can say is, if your god is like that, i refuse to worship or acknowledge him.. and i certainly do not want to get to know him.
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jgnat: I thought I saw in a post that you used the Deist title/concept. This is why I responded with trans./imman. Perhaps it was a different poster? If so, humble apologies. It is never my intend to misunderstand/misrepresent anyone (I was surprised when I thought you defended deism, so I must have misunderstood). I retract any assumption that you support deism if you do not (sometimes we understand different things by the same term though). Please forgive me. Most forums allow editing, but this one seems to limit it to half hour. Otherwise, I would edit to clarify.
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Hello
by Chariklo ini am new to this site, just finding my way around.. i've been studying with jw's for about 15 months.
i'm an unbaptised publisher, and until recently never missed a meeting, have been out "on the service" quite a lot.
i've been having difficulties with one of the jw's studying with me and something happened which was just unacceptable.
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I thank the Lord that you saw the light. It is easier to keep you from joining than to get you out once you did.
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I'm a JW...HERE ME WHINE!!!
by scooterspank ini don't even know where to start.
every jw i still have contact with is poor, their health is bad, they're stressed out, they're unhappy people.
they put on a good front but you can see the strained smiles, those distant looks into nowhere (or where their life could have gone).
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Rage against the machine. Many great Christians/evangelists have wept over the plight of the lost and share in love, time, energy (certainly not recording hours for a task master organization). Does the average JW work in love for God and the lost or do they seem to delight in rejection and knowing that the evildoers will be avenged with termination? In the natural, it is easy to turn people over to their plight, but those who know the grace and love of God should be broken for the lost. Evangelicals sometimes spend hours praying corporately for their cities, individuals, etc. I perceive that the WT says a cursory prayer, like thanks before a meal, but would know nothing about calling out to God in intercession, brokenness, etc. We have organizations that pray and seek God 24 hours/day and also go out and love and serve the community in practical ways in addition to preaching the gospel with passion and urgency. JWs are organized, but lifeless.
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The Christian Onslaught
by satinka in*sigh* i have been noticing lately there are a number of groups of "christians" signing up as members of this forum, with the obvious agenda of gaining converts for their own cult-like religions.
i have been wondering things like:.
hmmm...maybe i'll try ignoring them.. thank you simon for the space to vent.. satinka.
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Speak the truth in love. If we are going to condemn not speaking in love, we should also have a problem with those who refuse to speak truth at all or denigrate those who do stand for truth and righteousness even if offensive to some (I am talking about Jesus' style, not the Texas extremists which I do not defend).
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How are elders really selected?
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when i was growing up i was told that the "holy spirit" assisted in the selection of elders.
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godrulz
God looks on the heart. Biblical elder qualifications are based on calling, character, love for God and His people, servant-heart, etc. The JW elders I have met have come across ruthless, though some are no doubt sincere, good people. Young Mormon missionaries call themselves elders also, even though they are not in God's eyes. With privilege comes responsibility. I would not want to be in JW elder shoes.
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I'm a JW...HERE ME WHINE!!!
by scooterspank ini don't even know where to start.
every jw i still have contact with is poor, their health is bad, they're stressed out, they're unhappy people.
they put on a good front but you can see the strained smiles, those distant looks into nowhere (or where their life could have gone).
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This contrasts with the sense of joy, peace, power, abundant life, eternal life of Christians (though we also are not immune to depression, circumstances, issues, but His presence is with us vs a book study).