India is experiencing explosive Christian growth (not JW growth) despite the hostility. China went from 1 million to 30 million Christians between 1950 and 1980. The numbers are far greater now with China on track to become one of the largest Christian populations in the world. The key has been signs and wonders as the gospel is preached. WT will never know any of this kind of growth (3000 converted at Pentecost). Many churches are being planted around the world, the Bible is being translated by Christians into many dialects, etc.
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Where the need is great
by noontide in[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:worddocument> <w:view>normal</w:view> <w:zoom>0</w:zoom> <w:donotoptimizeforbrowser /> </w:worddocument> </xml><![endif].
wow, havent been around here in a while and it's nice to see some familiar names as well as new ones.. .
well, its that time of year again when some members of my family decide that they need to go preach where the need is great.
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Q for all Christians (not just JW) about the ransom.
by Anony Mous inso this is the basic logical flaw in christianity i believe.
a brother identified it from the stage for me in a talk.
we all agree (as christians and jw's) that the ransom was necessary because adam lost his perfection and everlasting life.. this is a paraphrase from the talk:.
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We are all sinners in need of a sinless Savior. We have more than enough personal sins to merit His sacrifice and our acceptance of it. Forget about blaming things on Adam, Satan, parents, potty training, WT, etc.
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The Watchtower, Christianity and Cultism
by Nickolas inif you want to upset a jehovah's witness, refer to the watchtower as a sect.
if you really want to upset a jehovah's witness, refer to the watchtower as a cult.
that's pretty much a conversation stopper.. the watchtower denigrates the rest of christianity.
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designs: what makes you think God was behind the tornados? They could have been demonic (see NT) or natural events. God is not omnicausal and there are likely stories of miracles and grace coming out of these things. Try reading Job. You are too puny to be shaking your fist in God's face and impugning His flawless character and ways that you know little about.
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Hello, I am New Here
by Boolshooy ini have just joined this discussion board.
i have been reading it for some time and have been enjoying the insightful posts here.
i grew up in the organization and had been very active.
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What is the gist of it?
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Where the need is great
by noontide in[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:worddocument> <w:view>normal</w:view> <w:zoom>0</w:zoom> <w:donotoptimizeforbrowser /> </w:worddocument> </xml><![endif].
wow, havent been around here in a while and it's nice to see some familiar names as well as new ones.. .
well, its that time of year again when some members of my family decide that they need to go preach where the need is great.
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Christianity has penetrated closed Muslim nations because the Holy Spirit cannot be kept out. I personally know people risking their lives and seeing great conversion growth in Northern African/Middle Eastern Muslim countries. The same was true in Russia/China and communism, etc. Persecution and martyrdom is great, but biblical Christianity has made inroads to the remotest places and seeing incredible growth. Conversely, JWs and Mormons cannot make the same claims and some groups are even seeing reverse growth. This is not proof of truth (like JWs sometimes claim because they go door to door or see growth in some places), but it is to the glory of God that the gospel is going to the ends of the earth. The largest, fastest growing groups are the Pentecostal/charismatic ones that I identify with.
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Where the need is great
by noontide in[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:worddocument> <w:view>normal</w:view> <w:zoom>0</w:zoom> <w:donotoptimizeforbrowser /> </w:worddocument> </xml><![endif].
wow, havent been around here in a while and it's nice to see some familiar names as well as new ones.. .
well, its that time of year again when some members of my family decide that they need to go preach where the need is great.
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Q for all Christians (not just JW) about the ransom.
by Anony Mous inso this is the basic logical flaw in christianity i believe.
a brother identified it from the stage for me in a talk.
we all agree (as christians and jw's) that the ransom was necessary because adam lost his perfection and everlasting life.. this is a paraphrase from the talk:.
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I don't know what metaphysical sin is (no such thing). Physical depravity is the consequences/punishment of Adam's sin that tainted the whole race. I am saying that all sin is moral/volitional, NOT metaphysical/genetic (moral vs metaphysical are philosophical categories distinguishing stuff/being and what we do with it; having a body is not sinful, but it is what we do with it that determines vice/virtue; Pauline use of flesh is a metaphor for sin, not a wooden literalism). Physical depravity gives us a propensity to sin, but original sin is wrong to think it is a causative, coercive thing back of the will inherited from Adam through sperm/blood (sin is moral, not metaphysical/physical; metaphysical sin does not make sense).
Aquinas was much too philosophical and not as biblical as Catholics think.
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The Watchtower, Christianity and Cultism
by Nickolas inif you want to upset a jehovah's witness, refer to the watchtower as a sect.
if you really want to upset a jehovah's witness, refer to the watchtower as a cult.
that's pretty much a conversation stopper.. the watchtower denigrates the rest of christianity.
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Happily, not the Church of Satan. I consider myself an evangelical Christian (which is actually broad), born again, biblical Christian, disciple of the Lord Jesus Christ (YHWH in the flesh, the God-Man). I am classical Pentecostal by denomination and experience (speak in tongues, etc.) because I believe it is closest to biblical practice and belief (though there is a large spectrum of beliefs within Pentecostalism and I personally have non-traditional beliefs like Open Theism). The local church I fellowship with is part of Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada (statement of beliefs under tab about us what we believe), sister organization to Assemblies of God in the U.S.
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The Watchtower, Christianity and Cultism
by Nickolas inif you want to upset a jehovah's witness, refer to the watchtower as a sect.
if you really want to upset a jehovah's witness, refer to the watchtower as a cult.
that's pretty much a conversation stopper.. the watchtower denigrates the rest of christianity.
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designs: Biblical, historical, orthodox Christianity affirms trinity and Deity of Christ. Modalism is a minority heresy that still affirms the Deity of Christ. JW Arianism is heretical and not Christian in any sense. So, countless Christians and denominations have the same Christology, even Catholic/Orthodox/Protestant/Evangelical. It is false to say that Christians are divided on this issue. Our divisions are over peripheral things. Mormonism and JWs are pseudo-Christian cults especially on their defective doctrine of God/Christology.
Resistance: you have semantical issues and wrongly assume any similarity proves identical. Jesus was a servant leader, God Himself. Jim Jones was an egomaniacal, possessed fleshly fraud. You lack discernment and wisdom. Christianity is also progressive revelation on the foundation of Judaism. It is not a splinter sect that is false or contrary to it.
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The Watchtower, Christianity and Cultism
by Nickolas inif you want to upset a jehovah's witness, refer to the watchtower as a sect.
if you really want to upset a jehovah's witness, refer to the watchtower as a cult.
that's pretty much a conversation stopper.. the watchtower denigrates the rest of christianity.
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From an evangelical Christian point of view, Christianity is a relationship with the risen Christ. He is the founder, foundation, Head, cornerstone, etc. Our faith is in the person of Jehovah God in Christ (Jesus is YHWH), not a man, not an organization, not an angel. Cults and world religions deviate significantly from essential divine revelation embodied in Judeo-Christianity. Mormonism is a pseudo-Christian cult because they promote plurality of gods/polytheism vs biblical monotheism. They have a different gospel and jesus. WT also started around one man's interpretations that have no historical precedent. Again, it denies the essentials of the faith including the Deity and physical resurrection of Christ, salvation by grace through faith alone, etc. It is not pejorative to call JWs and Mormons a pseudo-Christian cult, not biblical, historical, orthodox Christianity.
WT defines cult in a narrow way as being small, fringe groups with authoritarian leaders, etc. They manage to exclude themselves by making a definition to suit their purposes, yet blind to their autocratic ways, heterodox beliefs and practices, etc. With their blood view and harsh disfellowshipping manipulation, they are one of the largest, most dangerous cults in the world, in the guise of 'Christianity'. They try to distance themselves from 'Christendom', but deny Christianity in the process.