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  Do all congregations have to destroy all documents related to cases of Pedophilia?

  by opusdei1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i have been reading in facebook that there is a new society's order for destroying all documents concerning cases of pedophilia in all congregations.

  is it true that the elders have received such an order?

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  JeffT

  I'd like to see the US version of this letter.
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  Do all congregations have to destroy all documents related to cases of Pedophilia?

  by opusdei1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i have been reading in facebook that there is a new society's order for destroying all documents concerning cases of pedophilia in all congregations.

  is it true that the elders have received such an order?

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  JeffT

  It is yet possible that this will present a problem, I don't know how it may play out in court. True, they are not destroying official records, but it won't look good in a deposition if elders start saying they destroyed their own notes under instruction from the WTBS. Jurors are going to here that and ask themselves "Why?"
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  JW Real Estate Owned

  by badcompany in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just spoke to my dad who's been an elder since ~'72 and still is.

  he told me about a meeting he just had about kh annual maintenance.

  whoever led the meeting (not sure who) announced the world leaders in re locations owned:.

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  JeffT

  Not even close.

  http://nreionline.com/retail/2015-top-retail-owners

  Granted this is measure in square feet, but the number of locations is a stupid way to measure real estate. Note that none of the companies mentioned even show up on the list.
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  Prediction: jw.org sign up with monthly subscription fee

  by bohm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the wtbs is changing media from print to online.

  if we look at other companies doing the same the obvious buissness model is subscription with a monthly fee people can choose themselves.

  the wtbs can continue to offer everything for free, however subscribers might earn a button for social media or somesuch ("wtbs donor").

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  JeffT

  At the time they went to the donation arrangement, I thought they were making a big mistake. The advantage they had, and gave away, was that the R&F paid for the mags up front. What they did with them (place them for free, place them for cost, pile them up in the closet) didn't matter to the WTBS. They would have been money ahead to pay the taxes and be done with it.

  I think part of the decision was that they didn't think the locals could handle figuring out all the taxes. A subscription service maintained at HQ would be relatively easy to administer, as all the money would come into one place and the staff their could handle it.
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  No Soliciting signage and JW Policy

  by Oubliette in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does anyone have a copy of the boe letter directing publishers to not go into apartment complexes and/or condominium complexes with no soliciting signs?

  i ask because yesterday and buttheaded jw (that obviously had no idea who i am or my past) was knocking on doors in our condo complex.

  he would have had to drive past a sign which clearly states "no solicitation or material distribution.".

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  Oubliette, I actually thought of doing this once or twice.

  Does your condo project have a common area like a cabana? You might rent it for a night and pass the word you're having a seminar on how to talk to JW's when they're at the door. You could give them a few good talking points to bring up and tell them that if the JW's ask where they get their information, they can say that somebody that lives there is an xjw, and runs a class on them.

  With a bit of luck, you may be able to get the whole project put on a "don't go here" list.
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  How much is a Billion bucks to the Borg

  by Ignoranceisbliss in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in recent news articles it's been suggested that properties currently up for sale in brooklyn will fetch around $1,000,000,000.

  just how significant is this kind of money to the wtbts?

  my estimation is that would be the equivalent to 3 years worth of donations from every us witness.

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  JeffT

  Consider this: a billion dollars properly invested should yield about forty million dollars a year in income, and will do so forever. With structured settlements, I would expect them to be able to pay off lawsuits AND keep running.
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  No Soliciting signage and JW Policy

  by Oubliette in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does anyone have a copy of the boe letter directing publishers to not go into apartment complexes and/or condominium complexes with no soliciting signs?

  i ask because yesterday and buttheaded jw (that obviously had no idea who i am or my past) was knocking on doors in our condo complex.

  he would have had to drive past a sign which clearly states "no solicitation or material distribution.".

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  JeffT

  A friend of mine, who lives in Alaska, has a sign at the front of his property that reads:

  "No Trespassing.

  Violators will be shot.

  Survivors will be shot again."

  He says no one has been to the house uninvited since he put it up.
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  Peer presure to use Ipad

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  earlier this season i advised my retired father to ignore the use of a tablet during his kingdom hall congregational visits.

  his response was hopefull, but between the lines i could hear he had no choice.. yesterday he showed me his new 600 euro 64 gb ipad air 2. he had no clue what he has to do with it, he told me one of the elders will install the jw.org apps.. so, i feel he had to deal with presure to buy this ipad and i think he is not the only one.. do you recognize this?.

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  JeffT

  It's my understanding that all the music is on CD now, and that all the KH's have TV's on on the wall. Why not send every congregation a DVD with the music and the lyrics and tell them to play it on the TV?
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  Disassociation letter

  by BeautifulMind in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  good evening.

  i have a question about where to send my disassociation letter.

  do i give a copy to the overseer of the cong i was in and the branch?

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  JeffT

  You could take a page from Martin Luther's book and nail it to the door of the Kingdom Hall, although you may get a bill for a new door.
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  Warwick project "ahead of schedule?"

  by stillin in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this is what a brother said at the meeting today.

  he has been working there as a volunteer.

  but my impression was that the toxic waste debacle set the project back seriously.

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  JeffT

  About twenty years ago I was in a conference to set goals for all our projects for the coming year. One big apartment development had been giving us serious trouble all year. So when we got to that project manager he said (very emphatically) "I'm going to bring in 'xxx-apts' on time and on budget." The company VP looked at him and said "Well, considering we no longer have either a timeline or a budget, that shouldn't be difficult."

  I suspect Warwick is in about the same state of completion.