Posts by HappyGuy

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IRAN-Deja vu all over again?

by JWdaughter in

any of the rhetoric, demands, conciliation, etc., etc., remind you of anything?

wasn't this all how this war started in iraq?

(or the justification for it, anyway?

HappyGuy

My point about Bush is that he won the war but failed to win the peace, as he patently did not understand Iran and its position, he was guilty of hubris.

Bush understood nothing about anything and threw away the most brilliant military operation in modern history, the early stages of the Afghan war which left the Taleban and al-Qaeda destroyed and had Osama Ben Laden and the remnants of the Taleban and al-Qaeda leadership trapped at Tora Bora, but Bush let him escape for want of 800 Army Rangers.

I'm not sure what war you are talking about but we ahve not fought the coming war with Iran yet.

I guess you are claiming that you understand Iran and its position?

The US can take on Iran militarily, no question, it can not win a war with them though, unless they wish to annihilate them as they will be formidable in defence.

Formidable in defence? The Iranian navy, air forces, and air defences would be obliterated in the first few hours of the war, their port facilities captured or destroyed, the oil refineries that supply them with gasoline off shore in the persian gulf either captured or blockaded. With no fuel the Iranian economy and war effort would collapse. Game over. Their nuclear capabilities would be destroyed. The US does not need to invade Iran to obtain those results.

his viewpoint is similar to mine, that the moderates in Iran should be encouraged, and the hardliners discouraged

And when your hero Obama had a perfect opportunity to encourage them, what did he do? He said that the internal affairs of Iran were not a US issue.

He also thinks that there is a groundswell of younger people that want change, and are westward looking, the west has an opportunity to have a positive influence, and to ameliorate the mistakes of the past.

I think the Revolutionary Guard may have something to say about how much of a groundswell for change the young people can be. The most positive influence that the west can have is in removing the criminals running Iran from power. Ameliorate the mistakes of the past? You mean like the act of war that the Iranian regime committed when they invaded our embassy and kidnapped our people?

You can sing kumbaya with these freedom lovers in Iran all you want but the fact remains that we cannot afford to allow lunatics who have stated in public over and over again that they intend to launch a war of genocide to attain nuclear weapons.

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Out of the mouths of babes

by CaptainSchmideo in

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well, went to the circuit assembly on saturday.. there was was a family on stage, with two kids i will call "the stepford children".

(or would it be "the dunwich children"?

nah, they weren't that spooky or intelligent...).

HappyGuy

In my school we beat up the queers, so I don't see what all the fuss is.

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The Watchtower hates the word, "You"

by moshe in

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dozy brought up a good point a few months back about how the wt uses third party terminology to obscure their real motives.

i thought it was a good idea to revisit this wt writing technique.. (http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/184897).

look at the nov 15th 2009 wt, "treasure your place in the congregation" and compare what happens when we replace the third party terminology (words in bold type) with first party words.

HappyGuy

Since the Governing Body IS the slave class that first paragraph doesn't actually make any sense. Let's replace slave class with Governing Body

"We (The Governing Body and you readers) need to examine our response to the direction we receive from the Governing Body..."

This makes absolutely no sense. How can I give myself direction?

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Believers: Does Jesus Personally Talk to You?

by leavingwt in

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some of my christian co-workers have related to me how jesus has spoken to them.

one of the comments that i remember specifically, was this:.

"jesus put it on my heart to [take a certain course of action].

HappyGuy

Jesus talks to my dog and my dog tells me what Jesus said.

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A honest question to all creationists

by bohm in

hey!.

i have a question regarding creation thats burning me.

i dont have any clever arguments depending on what is answered, i am just curious.. first off i want to say that i think people are free to believe whatever they want.

HappyGuy

frankiespeakin,

I'm not sure what your point is, but you give pure speculation and claim that it is correct.

"probably do the same thing with chimps and humans" is PURE speculation and totally false.

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IRAN-Deja vu all over again?

by JWdaughter in

any of the rhetoric, demands, conciliation, etc., etc., remind you of anything?

wasn't this all how this war started in iraq?

(or the justification for it, anyway?

HappyGuy

llbh,

Your ability to shift and twist things around in order to deflect accounatability away from your beloved Democrat party just amazes me.

Yes, I know the shah was totalitarian, I watched the news every day when the people of Iran were overthrowing him.

No, the Ayatollah Khomeni did not overhtrow the shah, the people of Iran did that while Khomeni hid abroad. Khomeni was brought to Iran to steal the results of the revolution from the people of Iran by the French with the approval of Jimmy Carter. The Iranian people did not want a religious government, they wanted a secular government, most of them did not even know who Khomeni was, to many he was a comic book character.

I was a young adult when this was going on and watched it on the news everyday. Perhaps you should read some history books since you obviously don't know what your talking about.

I'm not sure what Bush and Iraq have to do with the point I was making about Carter making it possible for the radicals to take power in Iran from the secular revolutionaries who overthrew the shah.

The current regime is our enemy, they were emboldened by Jimmy Carter's do nothing policy, they are further emobldened by Obama's group hug policy. Their goal is to unleash a nuclear holocaust on the west. We have to smash them before they are able to do that. If the peopel of Iran want to remove the radicals so that we don't have to, that's okay but they better get on with it because we cannot afford to allow those lunatics to obtain nuclear weapons.

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Are JWs discouraged from seeking mental help?

by Kristina1972 in

my husband was raised in this religion, but was never baptized and does not go to meetings, although my mil is heavily involved.

although my husband doesn't practice his religion, he believes it is the truth and i hate asking him questions, because he is very defensive of the religion.

he and his mother, many years ago before i knew either of them, were treated for severe depression and hospitalized (at different times as a result of them going through divorces.

HappyGuy

And as always there are the talks, comments, innuendos, and aspersions from the platform at every assembly and special talk that reinforce these idiotic ideas that are not in print. That way the WTBTS can claim "we never SAID don't go to psychiatrists".

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Another example of why Christians' thinking baffles me, God made it stop raining....

by HappyGuy in

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i was overhearing a conversation among some christains at lunch the other day at my favorite diner.. a teenager had been at some kind of marching band camp, but it had been raining most of the time they were there.

they quoted the camp director as saying something like "i know it has been raining but today the rain stopped, thank the lord that he made the rain stop, now we can have our band practice, the lord made the rain stop to give you all the tiime to practice....".

so, i turned around and asked "if the lord made the rain stop, did the lord also make it rain so that the marching band camp was ruined?

HappyGuy

I was overhearing a conversation among some Christains at lunch the other day at my favorite diner.

A teenager had been at some kind of marching band camp, but it had been raining most of the time they were there. They quoted the camp director as saying something like "I know it has been raining but today the rain stopped, thank the LORD that he made the rain stop, now we can have our band practice, the LORD made the rain stop to give you all the tiime to practice...."

So, I turned around and asked "If the LORD made the rain stop, did the LORD also make it rain so that the marching band camp was ruined? I mean if the LORD is responsbile for controlling the weather then he must have made it rain also. And, if the LORD did ruin your band camp with the rain isnt' the LORD a bad guy?".

The response was something like "The LORD had his reasons for making it rain and we can never understand them".

So the LORD had reasons to ruin the teenager's band camp which we cannot understand but he is not a bad guy?

But we can understand the LORD's actions enough to definitely say that he stopped the rain so that the band camp could continue without rain?

Christains are delusional.

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If I talk to an elder like this, would I get into trouble?

by asilentone in

"i do not think you are appointed by the holy spirit".

HappyGuy

Do you mean that you do not think that elders are appointed by holy spirit or you do not think that the specific elder you are talking to is not appointed by holy spirit?

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IRAN-Deja vu all over again?

by JWdaughter in

any of the rhetoric, demands, conciliation, etc., etc., remind you of anything?

wasn't this all how this war started in iraq?

(or the justification for it, anyway?

HappyGuy

The Iranian regime committed an act of war against the United States when they invaded our embassy and kidnapped our people. Carter emboldened the regime by doing nothing except wanting to have a group hug. The current Iranaian president can be clearly seen in photographs of the hostage takers in the early days of the hostage crisis. Iran and the United States are enemies. Until the current regime is replaced we will continue to be enemies.

When the Iranian people took to the streets to overthrow the shah they wanted a secular government, they did not like nor want the Ayatollah's brand of religious fanatacism, most of them did not even know who the Ayatollah was, he had been in hiding abroad for 20 years. It was the left, Jimmy Carter, and the French that made it possible for the Ayatollah to steal the results of the Iranian people's toppling of the shah and steal the government.

Now these same leftists and Democrats are complaining because those of us who view Iran as our enemy want them smashed instead of allowing them to obtain nuclear weapons which the Iranians have promised to use to start their version of Armgaggedon?

Unbelievable.