Posts by EndofMysteries

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Can you prove that our entire universe and existence is not a computer simulation?

by EndofMysteries in

if you were a computer programmer and you were to create a simulated automated world, that would constantly evolve and self run after initial designs.

first you would have to code the rules, laws, and core elements of this world.

while this is being coded, the program is not run yet, so none of it exists.

EndofMysteries

All we can do is create simulations of intelligence. Mostly it's signal processing, pattern recognition and fast recall, not real 'intelligence' and reasoning.

Are you saying it would be impossible to replicate the human mind in a computer? Our minds are signal processing, pattern recognition, and fast recall as well. When born, we receive input and instructions by way of learning. We use patterns and analysis to make decisions. Our 'feelings' are based on chemicals such as dopamine, serotonin, etc being released in response to certain actions and conditions. If a computer program was made with the same conditions as the human mind at birth, I see no reason why this would not be possible, and then it could have intelligence and reasoning that surpass us.

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Can you prove that our entire universe and existence is not a computer simulation?

by EndofMysteries in

if you were a computer programmer and you were to create a simulated automated world, that would constantly evolve and self run after initial designs.

first you would have to code the rules, laws, and core elements of this world.

while this is being coded, the program is not run yet, so none of it exists.

EndofMysteries

Of course no one can prove we are not in a computer simulation, just like no can prove that unicorns don't exist.
The question is, if we are part of a computer simulation so real that no one involved can tell the difference between that and actual reality, what difference does it make whether we are or are not?

It would not make a difference, but if we ourselves are part of a simulation, then this is reality for us.

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Can you prove that our entire universe and existence is not a computer simulation?

by EndofMysteries in

if you were a computer programmer and you were to create a simulated automated world, that would constantly evolve and self run after initial designs.

first you would have to code the rules, laws, and core elements of this world.

while this is being coded, the program is not run yet, so none of it exists.

EndofMysteries

If you were a computer programmer and you were to create a simulated automated world, that would constantly evolve and self run after initial designs. First you would have to code the rules, laws, and core elements of this world. While this is being coded, the program is not run yet, so none of it exists. When you actually have the foundation you turn it on.

Now there is a big empty universe. Depending if you have things in place yet or not. Then comes creating genetic code. You put the first life forms in motion so the process from there on is completely automated. To save time, you copy this genetic code and build up from it. The very basic life forms were the elementary phase and you recycle what you can of the code for other life forms and variations. You program in the ability for it to self alter and adapt to conditions and change over time. The highest form has such an advanced level of AI they can become self aware and have the ability to use the resources on this world to create all manner of things. In the end you'll never physically be in their world and they'll never physically be in your world either.

What is to stop us right now from being able to create such an advanced program with AI? If we will be able to do this, how would we know if we are not ourselves part of one?

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There is no such thing as Agnosticism. Agnostics do not exist!

by nicolaou in

many here seem to believe that the position of agnosticism is somehow more reasonable than theism or atheism.

nonsense!

it is a misconception to believe that belief or non-belief in the existence of god/s are the two extremes which glare at each other over the fence of agnosticism.

EndofMysteries

When people say that you can't prove there is no god they can only say that by being as vague as possible about the words "prove" and "god". Define "god" and of course we can prove it is nothing but a human construct.

Take god and religion out of the discussion and instead replace it with intelligent design. It seems many think that intelligent design automatically equates to a god of any past belief, as if it's not one of those then there is no other possibility. If you still want the word there, I'll define god as, "the conscious intelligence that engineered life on Earth". I believe genetic engineering alone proves this to be a possibility. I completely dismiss the excuse that if it was another biological form that created "Earth life" that doesn't answer the origin of their life, etc,etc. It doesn't matter if "our" origin is the start of it all or further on the chain, if there is a chain, you must move up it to get to the original source. Ignoring parts if they turn to be true because it doesn't reach the final answer looked for just means you'll never move up the chain.

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People hate God?

by looter in

jw
friends

it is a pain that certain individuals pride themselves on hating god, who created everything.

like it's understandable that you choose to not believe in him because of your selfishness or thinking skills but to hate him is forcing it a bit.

i'm very thankful that those such as myself have the courage to believe in the lord.

EndofMysteries

And if you actually said to everyone that you hated God, you'd face prison, fines, and maybe even death.

Enjoying your sharia law in the middle east?

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There is no such thing as Agnosticism. Agnostics do not exist!

by nicolaou in

many here seem to believe that the position of agnosticism is somehow more reasonable than theism or atheism.

nonsense!

it is a misconception to believe that belief or non-belief in the existence of god/s are the two extremes which glare at each other over the fence of agnosticism.

EndofMysteries

Atheism is not the belief that there is no god, it is the lack of belief that god does exist. Think about that. There is no such thing as agnosticism, it's not a middle ground because there is no middle ground to occupy.

You are absolutely wrong. Take Cofty for example, he is 100% convinced no god or no intelligent life or creator for our origins of life. For him all by chance, no chance of anything behind it. He is atheist.

Now me, I see how there can be intelligent design in life. Whether biological scientists created us, other dimensional beings (spirits), us being enclosed and part of a simulation, a God as religions belief, etc. Science hasn't figured the origin of everything, and no way to know which religion if any are right, or if another intelligent design completely absent of any religion, etc. That makes me more so agnostic.

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The New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures argues for more than one GOD

by smiddy in

gen.1:26 "and god went on to say "let us make man in our image according to our likeness.....etc,etc,.. the key words here are "us" and " our" ,he is including other life forms just like him in using plurals.. he did not say " i" will make man in "my" image ,using the singular vernacular.

the same is also noted in gen 3:22 "and jehovah god went on to say " here the man has become like one of " us".

again he is using the plural and not the singlar language clearly showing their were other life forms on an equal footing to him.. also satan via the serpent also knew the difference between good and bad before he tempted eve , showing he was on a par with jehovah god in knowing that fact along with the other gods in heaven.. another scripture that comes to mind is 1 cor.8:5 "........just as their are many gods and many lords,,,".

EndofMysteries

He person has ever seen god or heard god, just the son “.
Well don’t have to be Sherlock Homes to realize he is referring to the two Yahweh or Jehovah of the old testament.It’s also the reason Paul would apply old testament quotes to Jesus like “ Call upon the name of the lord “ or calling jesus the visible image of the invisible god.

Making sure we are on the same page, so that would mean that Jehovah/Yahweh or anybody who directly interacted in Hebrew scriptures was actually Jesus or somebody other than 'the father' because it was saying nobody has ever seen or interacted with him correct?

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Help Please - Finding It Hard Adjusting To The Real World

by pale.emperor in

im asking for you guys help in a phase im going through right now.

im sure it’ll pass but id appreciate your advice..

born in, my family consists of mum, dad, two brothers and two sisters.

EndofMysteries

I was very much same situation as you at around the same time. Still adjusting but if able to get schooling if you don't have much of a career then get back at it, not too late. Keep trying to meet new people. Enjoy life, etc. It will lessen as time goes on.

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I need help, I'm falling in love with a JW girl

by nebula-- in

so i met her at my last job that i worked & we started off as friends.

i didn't know her faith at the time & i honestly couldn't have cared less, seeing as i'm agnostic.

after about a year, i began developing emotions for her & sure enough, we ended up dating for a little while.

EndofMysteries

On top of everything, if you have a close family she'll never join you for Christmas family gatherings, Thanksgiving dinners, trick or treat halloween, birthday parties if you had kids, etc. Family vacations may not be possible if she has to do "field service" etc. You'll either have to give those things up or go to them alone, etc.

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Elders and Attendants sing, clap and turn backs on Street Preacher after Duluth RC.

by ToesUp in

very strange behavior by the attendants and elders after the duluth, ga, rc.

on the first link the attendants start to exit the arena, then line up and turn their backs on the street preachers.

(around the 6:00 mark).. elders and attendants after duluth rc.

EndofMysteries

They cannot be arrested because its a public space - in contrast to doing the same in an auditorium (which, whilst open to the public, is a hired space and noisy attendees can be ejected)

Unless of coarse it's a Trump event then ejecting one who doesn't want to move by firming escorting them out is a violent attack, and makes them all racist, bigot, phobe off all sorts, etc.