If he was a CO, he was probably recently promoted to "DO" then the "DO" was demoted to "CO", then he got the announcement about DO's being removed and sent on their own. He prob thought the heck w/ this, packed his bags and left.
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Circuit Overseer wakes up, packs his bags and leaves!
by Anony Mous ini just heard this about a co i knew back in the day before he was even a co. he must be in his mid-late 40's now, my mother told me the story as she knows the family very well (the entire family has gone 'apostate' including several elders, circuit overseers and missionaries - this was an "example" family, always on the stage etc).. he wasn't 'feeling well' so he took time off from his co duties.
that week he packed his suitcase, told his wife he can't do it anymore and he's leaving, leaves her the car and the house and went to live in a small apartment, bought a small car and a week later got a decent job.. this was very recent so not everybody within the org has heard yet what happened..
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Anyone going to see the Noah flick?
by ctrwtf inwifey says she wants to go to see the special effects.
i suspect she wants to go to see russell crowe.
if you want to see special effects watch gravity.
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It's probably going to be horrible. After I saw Robin Hood (I think it was robin hood but it had Russel Crowe), I didn't see Robin Hood at all, only Russel Crowe. If his acting has continued just as bad, then this movie won't be "Noah", it'll be russel crowe dressed like noah.
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...WBT$/JW Preaching at the Door with a Cell Phone?!...
by OUTLAW in........................ ........................will jw`s be using their cell phone or tablet.. ...............to show a wbt$ video to people in the field service?!!...
........................... .................................... .. .......................................click the link below:.
................................................... http://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=19681.
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the 2 minute video showing quotes of not getting higher education, of the district convention talks on putting family, and everything else as second fiddle, pictures of shunning, suicide stories from it, etc.
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Pondering Noah account
by problemaddict ini see my wife being pulled into the org a little again, by some good people and kindness.
she grew up a very happy jw, and to leave is very hard for her.
but she has opened the pandoras box of her brain and can't shut it.. we were discussing blood a couple days ago.
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that whole region went under, even beyond where the sea lies today. Look at a map, imagine the whole area including the black sea, etc. all under. It makes sense that the ark then would have landed in the mountains of turkey. The animals for food and to help repopulate the area.
They are also finding in the black sea, med sea, etc, off the coasts evidence of settlements in those areas that are underwater.
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...WBT$/JW Preaching at the Door with a Cell Phone?!...
by OUTLAW in........................ ........................will jw`s be using their cell phone or tablet.. ...............to show a wbt$ video to people in the field service?!!...
........................... .................................... .. .......................................click the link below:.
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It's interesting that 'the evil one' has a beard. So that's why no beards are allowed because satan has one?
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Pondering Noah account
by problemaddict ini see my wife being pulled into the org a little again, by some good people and kindness.
she grew up a very happy jw, and to leave is very hard for her.
but she has opened the pandoras box of her brain and can't shut it.. we were discussing blood a couple days ago.
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Or how bout this.....the mediterranean sea used to be open land. humans were not world wide, so the flood covered the area where they had spread, within the mediterranean sea.
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...WBT$/JW Preaching at the Door with a Cell Phone?!...
by OUTLAW in........................ ........................will jw`s be using their cell phone or tablet.. ...............to show a wbt$ video to people in the field service?!!...
........................... .................................... .. .......................................click the link below:.
................................................... http://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=19681.
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the video they are using is at j w org then /en/video-why-study-the-bible/
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...WBT$/JW Preaching at the Door with a Cell Phone?!...
by OUTLAW in........................ ........................will jw`s be using their cell phone or tablet.. ...............to show a wbt$ video to people in the field service?!!...
........................... .................................... .. .......................................click the link below:.
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I can confirm that they ARE using tablets in service now. Someone I know showed me their tablet presentation. It's like a 3 or 4 minute video. Pretty much they knock on the door, show the video, then ask if they want a bible study .
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Jesus was a False Prophet - But was he deluded or deceitful?
by cofty inany objective reading of the gospels makes it plain that jesus believed his parousia would happen within the lifetime of his generation.. his followers believed in his imminent return until the day of their deaths.. his false prophecy damaged the lives of his disciples in a similar way to that done by the lies of modern cults like the watchtower.
peter and others walked out on their wives, children and businesses to follow him around palestine.
jesus taught them to put their families and other normal concerns in second place to their task of spreading his message - which turned out to be false.. the question is what he was up to?.
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"Any objective reading of the gospels makes it plain that Jesus believed his parousia would happen within the lifetime of his generation."
You might want to read a 'basic' book about the gospels. Any objective reading of the gospels makes it plain clear that Jesus believed the destruction of the temples and of physical jerusalem was going to happen within the lifetime of his generation.
Consider this....Matt 24:1-3 - Jesus is walking w/ his disciples and they show him "the buildings of the temple". Jesus tells them, "Truly I saw to you by no means will a stone be left upon a stone and not thrown down".
So Jesus says those buildings are going down! Then the disciples ask, "When will this be?(TIME PERIOD 1)"
NOW HERE IS THE TRICKY PART!!! If you only read Matt, Jesus doesn't answer the question right then and there, but instead the disciples as 2 other questions....."What will be the sign of your presence (TIME PERIOD 2)", "What will be the sign of the conclusion of the system of things (TIME PERIOD 3).
If you read the other gospels, you can know for a fact that Jesus was not saying they would all happen at the same time. Here are some statements of proof on that....
Acts 1:7 - "It does not belong to you to get knowledge of the times or seasons which the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction." - does that not go against nations against kingdom, wars, signs, etc, unless ofcoarse those were speaking about something else.
Luke 19:41-44 Jesus gives deep details about what would happen to Jerusalem in 70 CE, IN THAT GENERATION...."And when he got nearby, he viewed the city and wept over it, 42 saying: “If you, even you, had discerned in this day the things having to do with peace—but now they have been hid from your eyes. 43 Because the days will come upon you when your enemies will build around you a fortification with pointed stakes and will encircle you and distress you from every side, 44 and they will dash you and your children within you to the ground, and they will not leave a stone upon a stone in you, because you did not discern the time of your being inspected.”
In Luke 21 things are a little different then in Matt 24. In Matt 24:9 people are killed. (the early christians and apostles were killed and martyred). In Luke 21:12-19 however, if you read closely you'll see it's describing something different, people are delivered up, betrayed by family, and supposedly killed but not a hair on their head perishes, and by 'endurance' they aquire their souls. They are not actually killed like the first group but disfellowshipped. That's how they are killed yet not a hair on their head perishes.
That's also spoken more detailed in Mark 13:9-13 about child against parents and parents against children, which is exactly what happens with shunning and such in the JW religion, yet nobody physically kills the other.
In Mark 13:7,8 Jesus brings out how the wars and world's problems will happen but they are NOT the end. It's merely the start of bad things.
In Mark 13:32 he clearly says nobody knows when it will come.
Also go back to Matt 24. You'll see how this was all a bit scrambled up. In Matt 24:34 and 35 you see teh statement about the generation. Which is speaking about the destruction of Jerusalem.
Then right after, in Matt 24:36-39, THAT is speaking about the real end, nobody knows the day or hte hour and how bad would things be? Actually it describes things as being normal, people drinking, marrying, etc. When it actually comes it does come as a surprise, not in the midst of wars and such. That's also why you have the scripture about peace and security. Things will seem fine.
Lastly, I did forget a MAJOR important scripture.....Jesus foretold the destruction of Jerusalem, and he also gave a time limit for how long it would remain destroyed/trampled by nations.....
Luke 21:24 (continuing with what happened in 70CE "and they will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive into all the nations, and Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations, UNTIL the appointed times of the nations are fulfilled." (Makes you wonder if the restoration of Israel to Jews after WW2 is tied to that.)
In summary what he said was sort of scrambled and many different time periods put together. If you read all the gospels and sort it out, you'll see he foretold that the temple and Jerusalem would be destroyed in THAT generation and the disciples in THAT time would be martyed. That jerusalem and jews are scattered and put into other nations until the end of the gentile times. That there would be wars and food shortages, etc, and all of that is NOT the end. That in future timeperiod his people would be killed by disfellowshipping, families turning on each other. Many would claim to be anointed or to follow them for Christ (like Rutherford and other false teachers) and to NOT follow them. That nobody knows when the end will finally come but it will be in a time when things are calm and least expected.
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Physics: What are your thoughts on life in the 4th,5th,and higher dimensions?
by EndofMysteries inif you do a little research there are many physics forums, discussions, and books about this.
it's a bit challenging to grasp but it's very interesting.
if there is life on this higher dimensions, they could see us yet we would be unable to see them.
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jgnat - below is a very real 2 dimensional world, I've personally seen it!
