Baltimore police have pulled back. No more stop and frisks, etc. It's racist for them to do their job. It's racist to accept reality. So let's see the results. Murders are doubling, and Baltimore is surging past Detroit for murders. https://www.baltimorebrew.com/2015/08/07/baltimore-surges-past-detroit-in-number-of-homicides-in-2015/ becoming the second most violent city in America. But it's okay, all the innocent children and hundreds of extra murders are worth it because now they can be politically correct and pretend that crime is equal among all groups in the USA and stop doing their job as soon as the number of blacks go past their population percentage of crime vs white in the USA so nobody can accuse them of being racist.
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Racial Bias in Policing
by Coded Logic inthe us justice department just released findings from their investigation of the baltimore police department.
as 40% of the force is comprised of black officers some thought they'd be "immune" to racial bias.
it turns out black cops can be just as racist - if not more racist - against black people than white cops.
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American democracy in crisis
by slimboyfat inokay cut to the chase.
the united states has got a problem.
hillary clinton is so unpopular that practically any republican who ran against her would probably have beaten her.
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Yeah, but that's not an actual thing. It's mostly a racist perception. So it's up to black people to fix the racist perception against them?
Let's see if Viviane answers this. Challenged another to post stats and math. The above response of hers is on the claim of a highly disproportionate number of robberys, shootings, and street violence being done by young black men is a racist perception.
Here is the 2014 FBI crime statistics showing arrests by race and for what crime.
Blacks make up under 20% of USA population.
So Vivivane, using these factual statistics, point out what is a perception vs a fact.
8,230 murder arrests, 3807 white and 4,224 black. Even with the no snitch culture, still more blacks who murdered were arrested than whites despite only making up a small percentage of the population. This is amazing, do you recall the ft myers mass shooting recently where children as young as 12/13 were shot? The perpetrators still at large because the witnesses don't want to be a 'snitch' and the others have withdrawn their complaints. http://www.news-press.com/story/news/2016/05/02/complaint-withdrawals-frustrate-lee-law-enforcement/82895644/ In 2014 there were 6095 black murder victims, despite under 20% of population the number was more than 50% https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/expanded-homicide-data/expanded_homicide_data_table_1_murder_victims_by_race_ethnicity_and_sex_2014.xls
Robbery arrests, 41,000 for blacks and 30,000 for whites. I guess even though under 20% of the population, a big disproportionate arrested for robbery is also a racist perception that is untrue?
But it's not ALL crimes, just the violent ones like murder, robbery, etc. Vehicle theft, Fraud, etc, whites are doing their fair share. For drunk driving blacks are even below average.
So using math and statistics, please elaborate your comment on how these are racist perceptions and not "an actual thing".
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American democracy in crisis
by slimboyfat inokay cut to the chase.
the united states has got a problem.
hillary clinton is so unpopular that practically any republican who ran against her would probably have beaten her.
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Blacks engage in crimes out of proportion to the rest of the general population simply because of poverty. Poverty breeds crime and you would have the same pattern in impoverished white communities.
Absolutely false. Show me a single poor white neighborhood that has the same killings and crime. I've also traveled the world, one of the poorest places I visited was Cairo. People living in extreme poverty, less than $2 a day, but thievery, robbery, murders, etc, not happening at all. The root cause is the CULTURE. The black inner city black culture worships the gangsta lifestyle, the culture shuns education and any actions to improve ones place in life are labeled "acting white", no family structure, etc. If it was simply poverty then there would be identical murders/gangs/crime all over the world for those in equal poverty.
Ukraine is another example. Extremely poor. But not really a problem with crime, murders, etc at all. No areas that don't feel safe. It was real poor that several generations of families lived in small apartments and everybody worked or were creative to survive on the limited resources they had without going to crime. They don't have benefits like food stamps, etc. Costa Rica is another culture very different. Tons of very poor, and crime is very high, but not murder. Thievery is very high. But San Jose is nothing like Chicago, detroit, Baltimore, etc, with tons of shootings and killings every week. The only variance in all these cases is skin color and culture.
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Got my JC cancelled... (at least for now)
by Sanchy inso my wife and i have been in the process of fading for a few months now as per my original post here.
about a week ago, i was browsing some ex-jw facebook groups when i saw a post that linked to the crisis of conscience book.
i said "f@(k it" and hit share on it.. a few hours later, i get a long text letter from my mom (who was a fb friend of mine) telling me the typical "good luck finding friends in the world" and how we have "nothing in common anymore"; basically, it was a 'farewell' text.
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They were scared shitless of me and about four patrol cars and 5 cops came to their distress 911 call.
Did you have your JC meeting wearing your concealed in a way that there was an obvious imprint? lol
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Got my JC cancelled... (at least for now)
by Sanchy inso my wife and i have been in the process of fading for a few months now as per my original post here.
about a week ago, i was browsing some ex-jw facebook groups when i saw a post that linked to the crisis of conscience book.
i said "f@(k it" and hit share on it.. a few hours later, i get a long text letter from my mom (who was a fb friend of mine) telling me the typical "good luck finding friends in the world" and how we have "nothing in common anymore"; basically, it was a 'farewell' text.
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(In my experience). Mention how you feel like a hypocrite in preaching to others to look into their religion. If you were a born in, then you never had done any investigation. There is a phamphlet (Forgot but maybe somebody can link it) that was geared towards those of other religions and said if a person was born into it, even if it was the true religion, it wasn't sincere on their part if they never investigated to make sure. (This phamplet from the org is the big green light to do outside investigation, even though they didn't intend it for insiders, the elders can't say that they are preaching hypocrisy, etc.)
Also if they asked about the faithful slave, tell them you believe in the bible and what it says. Also (it will be easy since it's sincerely confusing for everybody) tell them you are confused about what it is too. You can really answer many of their questions with questions if you know your stuff and they'll get confused and put it aside, especially when many of the flip flops. Asking to show in the scriptures how the current overlapping generations is explained through the bible, and what in the scriptures lead it to be those 15 and over in 1914. To those born in 1914......then to nobody should try to answer it because Jesus says nobody knows the day or hour, then back to overlapping generations. To show and explain what in the scriptures supports those changes in belief.
In the end, it will become they'll assign one to try to answer your questions. May last a month or so and something comes up or too busy. Then gets to be a yearly phone call.
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American democracy in crisis
by slimboyfat inokay cut to the chase.
the united states has got a problem.
hillary clinton is so unpopular that practically any republican who ran against her would probably have beaten her.
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American democracy in crisis
by slimboyfat inokay cut to the chase.
the united states has got a problem.
hillary clinton is so unpopular that practically any republican who ran against her would probably have beaten her.
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. I have stated previously that I have a hard time supporting Hilary because of integrity issues, are you at all concerned with Trumps lies? I am just curious.
After this statement, I am copy/pasting a statement made by somebody that really sums up how I feel about Trump and why I am for him vs Hillary. From Hillary's actions as secretary of state, the clinton foundation, her lies and reaction to the mess at Libya, the perjury she committed but was given a free pass for by FBI, and close ties to Obama and his administrations having previously blocked an FBI investigation into the Clinton Foundation, she is the incarnate of all that encompasses a corrupt politician. Aside from that, look at her tax strategy vs Trump. She will raise taxes for everybody, Trump really helps everybody in his tax code. Especially the poor and middle class. And looking at Europe w/ the immigration problem and Cofty brought out a good point in another thread I think about how taking in tons of immigrants when not enough jobs creates problems, Trump wants to get things stable.
Here is the copy/paste part that sums up my feelings and why with his faults feel he is better than Clinton. "Millions of Trump supporters feel this way about Donald J. Trump.....We don't care if the guy swears... or how many times he's been married...or who he voted for, or what his income tax return shows. We want the problems fixed. Yes he's an egomaniac, but we don't care. We know he's not a racist, nor is he bad to women, or all of the other things that the liberal media is trying to label him with. We know that he's raised a good family, and that says a lot about him.The country is a mess because politicians suck, the Republican Party is two faced & gutless, and illegals are everywhere and Muslims Extremists are openly trying to hurt this country and make the civilized world adjust to them. We want it all fixed!
We don't care that Trump is crude, we don't care that he has changed positions, we don't care that he fights with Megyn Kelly, Rosie O'Donnell, and so many of the elected establishment. We don't care that Cruz, Kasich, the Bush's, and so many other top, old and new, Republicans refuse to endorse him for their own selfish reasons, and we know what they are. We don't care that he doesn't know the name of some Muslim terrorists, we don't care that a very few of his many successful businesses didn't work out.
This country is weak, bankrupt, our enemies are making fun of us, we are being invaded by illegals, we are becoming a nation of victims, where every Tom, Ricardo and Hasim is a special group, with special rights to a point where we don't even recognize the country we were born and raised in, AND WE JUST WANT IT FIXED. And TRUMP is the only guy who seems to understand what the people want.
We're sick of politicians, sick of the Democratic and Republican Party. We're angry about the budget, treatment of Israel, lobbyists, special interests, overpaid politicians with their self- serving bills and back room deals, trade deals, loss of jobs, manipulated economic numbers, businesses fleeing, and even the phoney pay for play Clinton Foundation.
Americans are no longer going to be fooled, and the movement is out to change the direction we're taking. Trump may not be a saint, but he doesn't have lobbyist money holding him, he doesn't have political correctness restraining him, and all we know is that he has been very successful, a good negotiator, he has built a lot of things, employed a lot of people ,he's flexible, and most importantly he's not a politician. And he says he'll fix it. And we believe him because he is too much of an egotist to be proven wrong or looked at and called a liar or a failure.
Public service has become elected greed. This may be our only chance to have a non-politician, despite his flaws, try and correct this gigantic mess, at least for the next 4 years. We must take this shot, because the consequences of putting Hillary Clinton in office are frightening. There is a tidal wave happening, and it's going to overcome much of what's happened to this country." -
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American democracy in crisis
by slimboyfat inokay cut to the chase.
the united states has got a problem.
hillary clinton is so unpopular that practically any republican who ran against her would probably have beaten her.
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http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bal-document-u-s-department-of-justice-investigation-of-the-baltimore-city-police-department-20160809-htmlstory.html
Since ALL black people in baltimore are completely equal on committing crime with every other person in the world and all things should be equal, the baltimore police have really pulled back from those stop and frisks. Because of hurt feelings. Let's see the results!
In 2015 Baltimore crime and murders have surged, when a few years prior they had half of detroit in 2012
That article also lists the cities w/ the highest homicide rates and killings this year. Why are the highest numbers all cities w/ highest black population and why are most of the victims blacks? Should somebody inform them that they are not killing in the correct proportion to their population among other races and they need to back off a bit?
So are the HUNDREDS or soon to be thousands of extra murders of children like the 5 year old girl, etc, per year worth the price of having police try to equally in proportion to skin color do their searches, etc, so no hurt feelings and to be politically correct that a certain community does not have a problem among themselves they need to work out?
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American democracy in crisis
by slimboyfat inokay cut to the chase.
the united states has got a problem.
hillary clinton is so unpopular that practically any republican who ran against her would probably have beaten her.
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- I thought we were discussing Hilary, not Obama.Or is she responsible for his comments?
- The Police are targeting blacks, see the Article Ruby posted on the DOJ investigation into the Baltimore Police Department. They are by no means the only department that adopted the kind of "stop and frisk" policies that temd to impact black people far more, whether that is the intent or not.
Redvip really hit the nail on the head here. People need to stop pretending that everything among all groups are equal. If young black males being arrested more or more dealings with police is not because they are committing more violent crime and it is pure racism, then there should be riots and the whole country burning down because males are 90% targeted by police over women and we have a sexism epidemic. As ridiculous as that statement is.
Show me a single poor white majority neighborhood or city that has nonstop shootings like chicago, baltimore, etc. Every weekend 50+ people are shot in Chicago. Just this past weekend a drive by of young black men shot up a car w/ a women and a 5 year old girl. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-weekend-shootings-20160815-story.html I can find a story like this EVERY WEEK. If all is equal, where is the white crime like this? Are the murder statistics falsified? BUT since police are under so much pressure to try to make things equal, all they have been able to do is fall back. And what has been the result? Murders/shootings in Chicago are set to DOUBLE this year. In chicago alone all of last year had 2,988, barely half past this year and the number has already reached 2600. All major inner city majority black areas are having extreme spikes in shootings and murders since the whole BLM movement began. And no more is it unacceptable for only aggressive unarmed, but with Milwaukee a thug who had a semi automatic in his hand and shot by a black officer, so the message is w/ that community is let black people commit crimes with impunity, if police interfere then attack police and whites. Is that the direction the country should go?
Recent studies (http://www.mediaite.com/online/new-study-finds-that-police-are-more-likely-to-shoot-white-suspects/) show that because of this pressure and public hate towards them, they are less likely to shoot a black person than a white person now. They are putting their own lives at risk because of this lie and pc crap.
Why are we focusing on BLM?
We got to this point because it was one of the issues I mentioned about Hillary that should she be elected president, based on her copying Obama in this regards, would result in more problems. You claimed that was irrational and so this discussion began. I am happy to move onto other areas Hillary is unfit and much worse than Trump.
The Clinton Foundation makes her leaked emails and perjury about them look like nothing. http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/11/exclusive-joint-fbi-us-attorney-probe-of-clinton-foundation-is-underway/ While serving as secretary of state (foreign affairs), has been getting billions in donations from foreign governments and individuals in whom she had dealings with and in deciding policy or awards contracts. The FBI tried to open an investigation and Obama's administration blocked it. Now an investigation is opened yet again.
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American democracy in crisis
by slimboyfat inokay cut to the chase.
the united states has got a problem.
hillary clinton is so unpopular that practically any republican who ran against her would probably have beaten her.
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In line with my last post, here are quotes from Obama, many times made almost immediately after a shooting before facts and investigations come in.....
“There’s a big chunk of our fellow citizenry that feels as if because the color of their skin they’re not being treated the same,” he added. “And that hurts. And that should trouble all of us."
“The data shows black folks are more vulnerable to these kinds of incidents."
So his comments make black people think the lie that police are targeting them is substantiated. That the government knows about it. So every time it happens they get even more inflamed. He even mentions data showing it. What data? More whites are killed than blacks. Is the data because they are black or because they disproportionately commit more crime? Or because of the anti police culture / no snitch culture / etc?
Hillary is proving to continue on as Obama. Which means this will increase. Trump won't make statements like that.
Look at Trumps statements about Milwaukee, he brings out how the riots are hurting 'law abiding' blacks. How it hurts their jobs, their homes, their neighborhoods are dangerous, etc. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-slams-milwaukee-protests-appeals-black-voters-law/story?id=41439861
"The main victims of these riots are law-abiding African-American citizens living in these neighborhoods," said Trump, who's been struggling to attract black voters. "It's their job, it's their homes, it's their schools and communities which will suffer the most as a result. There is no compassion in tolerating lawless conduct for anyone. Crime and violence is an attack on the poor and will never be accepted in a Trump administration."
A president who states the facts and will try to fix that or one who goes on lies that white people and police are targeting them and fueling the flames based on a lie?