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Announcements regarding congregation accounts report is back on for Service Meeting

by oppostate in

with the last service meeting the reading of the local congregation accounts report will be back on the schedule being read from the podium..

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@skeeter1

Excellent question!

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One figure that won't be mentioned is how much money the WTS has on hold for the congregation in their own banks.

And also if a congregation shares a meeting the actual costs from the KH Operating Committee will not be read to the congregation.

So that if an Operating Committee has $20,000+ in the bank, that is in trust with the WTS's bank account so they can use it, invest it and what not, the sum will not be read in the report, but only the local Congregation expenditures and receipts for the month, that way it seems like they're just barely making it from month to month.

BTW... The bookstudy will now be adding 5 minutes and the Service Meeting will be deducted 5 minutes.

All announcements will happen during the first part scheduled for the Service Meeting.

It used to be that if I or my wife missed a meeting due to sickness or some dire circumstance the question to the one that did attend was "Anything new in the Announcements?" Well, I guess that says how much more non-eventful every mid-week meeting will become.

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Announcements regarding congregation accounts report is back on for Service Meeting

by oppostate in

with the last service meeting the reading of the local congregation accounts report will be back on the schedule being read from the podium..

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With the last Service Meeting the reading of the local congregation accounts report will be back on the schedule being read from the podium.

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Some of you aren't going to like this news, but here goes...

by AndersonsInfo in

rick simons, candace conti's attorney, will be interviewed on the six screens of the watchtower conference phone line this evening.

there's a good chance that candace will join in, but that's not set in stone.

the host of the program, rick, told me to tell everybody that he is learning how to calm down and to do better on these conference calls.

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At 6:31 PM (712) 432-8710 was not available for a phone call.

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Morris: a blingy Goober Member

by oppostate in

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it don't mean a thing unless you got dat bling, gooba gooba gooba!.

thx to rifterx @ http://www.reddit.com/r/exjw.

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It don't mean a thing unless you got dat bling, gooba gooba gooba!

thx to RifterX @ http://www.reddit.com/r/exjw

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For me, it was when they kicked out Ray Franz and Ed Dunlap

by oppostate in

for me, it was when they kicked out ray franz and ed dunlap.. .

i knew about the reform movement they started through ed's brother - and stupidly believed it could work.. .

the clouds were truly parted and i could see it for what it was when they were ejected for nothing but trying to ask for biblical reform.. .

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Would be an interesting read. I had two nephews in NY Bethel at about that time but they are still vey active so they would not tell me anything if they knew anything to tell.

I agree it would be an interesting read.

I feel that after reading CoC and ISoCF there's still a lot of details that could come out of the time just before and during the "GB crackdown".

James personal knowledge of the Dunlaps is very valuable and something that would be an excellent insight to consider. It may help others to chime in.

Maybe Randy can add more to the story too.

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For me, it was when they kicked out Ray Franz and Ed Dunlap

by oppostate in

for me, it was when they kicked out ray franz and ed dunlap.. .

i knew about the reform movement they started through ed's brother - and stupidly believed it could work.. .

the clouds were truly parted and i could see it for what it was when they were ejected for nothing but trying to ask for biblical reform.. .

oppostate

Hi James,

Thanks for explaining a bit about the reforms that they wanted to make.

One would think that indeed the GB would be open to "solid scriptural principles" and want to make the WT religion well founded on what the Bible teaches. But of course we now know better.

If you would please tell about your experiences and what you remember those times being like. There were so many rumors, and still are about Ray and Ed.

Thanks for being willing to share your recollections. I'm thinking there are quite a few here on JWN that would like to read more about this too.

With best regards always,

Oppo

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For me, it was when they kicked out Ray Franz and Ed Dunlap

by oppostate in

for me, it was when they kicked out ray franz and ed dunlap.. .

i knew about the reform movement they started through ed's brother - and stupidly believed it could work.. .

the clouds were truly parted and i could see it for what it was when they were ejected for nothing but trying to ask for biblical reform.. .

oppostate

For me, it was when they kicked out Ray Franz and Ed Dunlap.

I knew about the reform movement they started through Ed's brother - and stupidly believed it could work.

The clouds were truly parted and I could see it for what it was when they were ejected for nothing but trying to ask for biblical reform.

Hi James, please give some details about this. I've read both CoC and ISoCF by Ray and listened to Ed's tapes on his experice through the JC, but don't remember there being a "reform movement" per se. I know a lot of the Spanish brothers were questioned, but did they actually discover a "reform movement". There was one snitch who stretched and stretched the truth of what was going on and it's intent from what I've gathered.

An elder who was in Bethel at the time told me they were having separate "bookstudies" in people's dorm rooms at Bethel. Is this what you mean by there being a reform movement.

Maybe I'm reading too much into your comment. There were indeed brothers who were trying to approach the Bible through personal study and sharing with others, but no definite movement was formed, I thought. Although, that's exactly what the rest of the Governing Body seems to have been worried about.

Coming on the heels of the WT Presidency losing a lot of it's muscle, maybe the Governing Body thought some more "reforms" would decrease their new found power.

But I'm definitely interested in what details you can share about this time of upheaval at HQ.

With best regards,

Oppo

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NWT 2012 Revision - Your Suggestions Please

by cofty in

so if its true that a new 2012 version of the new world translation is to be released at this year's dc what changes do you think they will have made?.

don't forget your square brackets for interpolations.. .

"this good news of the kingdom will be preached to all the [developed] world and then the end will come" - matt 24:14.

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I don't think the new NWT will have much in the way of re-wording... Just the same old - same old - NWT minus square brackets repackaged with a little bling eye candy!

Sometime ago ( http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/224140/1/So-wonderful-little-and-other-punctuation )

I mentioned these new blinged out NWT versions that the GB and some preferred travelling overseers were sporting last year at the District Convention. (There be pictures on Facebook!)

The Bibles versions they carried were a bit fatter because they included the appendices of the reference bible but in the deluxe leatherette size.

Maybe the marketing guys at Bethel decided that grey and silver may appeal more (than the black or maroon gold edged) to the ever more elderly and passing away generation that was promised to already be in a paradise earth.

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2012 Convention Releases

by garlic81 in

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post 51 of 52. since 3/27/2009.

google_ad_section_start i can't verify the authenticity of this information as i have not personally attended.

however this is what is posted on another site.. friday:.

oppostate

Sometime ago I mentioned the new blinged out NWT versions that the GB and some preferred travelling overseers were seen carrying last year at the District Convention.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/224140/1/So-wonderful-little-and-other-punctuation

The Bibles versions they carried were a bit fatter because they included the appendices of the reference bible but in the deluxe leatherette size.

Apart from the missing square brackets I didn't see any changes nor did I have much time to look for any, just a brief thumb through, but the quality feel of the leather like cover is much softer and the gilding is silver not golden.

That's the only new version of the NWT that I've seen around and wouldn't be surprised if that's the new version release. The same old - same old - repackaged with a little bling eye candy!

Maybe the marketing guys at Bethel decided that grey and silver may appeal more to the ever more elderly and passing away generation that was promised to already be in a paradise earth.

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Coded Phone number for Kingdom Hall attendence.

by Joshnaz in

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i just learned the the kingdom halls have a coded phone number for listening in on the sunday meetings.

for my area the phone number is 623-748-1908. when it asks you for the code dial 623293. you can enter the number of listeners and you are counted in attendance.

i just wanted to let everyone here know and see what everyone's thought's were..

oppostate

the pin numbers from KHCONF are usually the area code followed by three more numbers.

There's an administrator pin that establishes the conference.

There's also an attendant pin that gives you the total number of listeners.

Then there's two other pins, one for listening only and one for listening and commenting.

If they change the listening pin they usually don't change the other pins.

It may take some time and repeated dialing, but you could guess at the last three numbers after the area code and get in on the conference with luck.

The local administrator of the account can log into https://report.khconf.com/

and see who called in and for how long. If they see any strange numbers, like

numbers outside the area code they'll try to do a reverse look up to see who the

phone belongs to, and if they can't find out they will discuss the need to change

the pin number, then publishers who want to listen in have to call the Coordinator

for the new pin before the meeting. That's the standard procedure locally.