Posts by oppostate

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Watchtower leaders imprisoned! Details prove fascinating...

by Terry in

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oppostate

he named 5 replacements, but there are 6 names listed,

Exactly, I wouldn't have put it beyond Rutherford to add his name.

He seems to have had no shame greedily grabbing for high position in the WTS.

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Aliens: Vatican Prepared (Not WTS)

by metatron in

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http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0802629.htm.

if you google 'vatican and aliens', you will find a number of references to vatican officials making positive remarks about extraterrestrials - including a few who outrightly assert that they exist.

in addition, the vatican is interested in observatory time used for locating earth-like planets.. in summary, it looks like they wish to be prepared, come what may.

oppostate

So if ET's did show up, the WTBTS would not take it well, especially since they have predicted the opposite.

And it failing to come up with a reasonable explanation the WTS would probably make this become another surreptitious flip-flop by the WTS.

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Anyone want to guess the name of our future king

by barry in

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my guess is henry.

"A man who dares to waste one hour of time has not discovered the value of life."

by oppostate in

i still attend meetings to make things easier at home with my wife.. don't tell me to grow a pair, that's part of keeping the pair happy.. but anyway... last meeting one of the minion servants comes up.

and says that he wants very much to go in service together this.

summer.

oppostate

I still attend meetings to make things easier at home with my wife.

Don't tell me to grow a pair, that's part of keeping the pair happy.

But anyway... Last meeting one of the Minion Servants comes up

and says that he wants very much to go in service together this

Summer. Never mind the heat wave we've been having in New

England, he wants to do some door to door "like in the old days".

I haven't gone door to door in a couple of years nor have I turned

a service time slip for the same amount of time although I have

gone on some calls in service to keep up appearences, and end

up giving a witness about Jesus Christ and the meaning of his

"commands" for us today... Ok, so I said "fine" yeah, I'll go with

you on a Saturday when the heat wave gets over . You should

have seen his face light up, must have made his day. (If he can

be seen with me in service he's going to earn a few browny

points with the elders, I'm sure.)

But... getting back to why I'm writing this topic... the quote that

serves as the title of this here mini-rant about being cornered to

go in "field service" is by none other than Charles Darwin. YUP!

Although I still believe in creation, I'm leaning towards the fact

that God may have used and is continuing to use evolution to

make life and to populate this earth with wonderful examples

of well adapted organisms that can thrive in this Marvel of a

Blue Marble. After opening my eyes to TTATT I'm more aware

than ever of the waste of time JWs make for the benefit and

praise of a Publishing House and Real Estate Holdings company

posing as a religion... Oh, the waste of precious hours of life!

"A man who dares to waste one hour of time has not discovered the value of life." -- by Charles Darwin.

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Bible printing, a loss of money for the WTS

by oppostate in

so i brought this up in another thread... but i think it needs its own discussion.. having had one of the new grey leatherette and silver edged bibles with the new appendixes in my hand.

i immediately thought of all the custom covered nwt bibles you see some publishers sporting at meetings.

also the fact that the co's and wives who'd been given one had to turn it back in seemed very off-putting.. .

oppostate

The new NWT editions (the greys) with silver edging are straight from Bethel.

If you've seen someone with one of these greys then that tells you they're well connected at Bethel.

There are ... ehem... pictures of Guy Pierce with one of the greys at Bro Ferguson's Facebook page.

nuf said about where you can get photo proof if you want to search for it.

So... yeah, the plasticky editions turned out to cost cheaper to produce and were treated like the cheap binding issues they were, the publishers didn't donate enough to cover their cost in producing them. A lot of these are placed without much thought about requesting a donation.

So they saved some money in producing them as compared to the cardboard hard cover with leather grain imprinted on paper, of course the one that really costs a lot to produce are the gold edged red/maroon and black pigskin leather ones, which are special request items.

The leather on the greys is supple and smooth. The Bible itself is thicker since it includes the indexes which appear in the reference Bible. The text in these editions was the same as the one we can get now minus the [brackets].

That's my recollection in having had some of these to thumb through.

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SUNDAY and my last illusions

by Terry in

don't we all try to reconnect with old friends?

faded jw friends?

all those memories and years gone by....... .

oppostate

Thanks Terry for sharing this experience.

You definitely have a nice way with words that makes it easy to envision what you're sharing.

I'm sorry about your friends life being so filled with troubles.

May your bond of friendship with her continue to be a positive in her life and yours as well.

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Bible printing, a loss of money for the WTS

by oppostate in

so i brought this up in another thread... but i think it needs its own discussion.. having had one of the new grey leatherette and silver edged bibles with the new appendixes in my hand.

i immediately thought of all the custom covered nwt bibles you see some publishers sporting at meetings.

also the fact that the co's and wives who'd been given one had to turn it back in seemed very off-putting.. .

oppostate

So I brought this up in another thread... But I think it needs its own discussion.

Having had one of the new grey leatherette and silver edged bibles with the new appendixes in my hand

I immediately thought of all the custom covered NWT Bibles you see some publishers sporting at meetings

and I can say that I was not very impressed.

Also the fact that the CO's and wives who'd been given one had to turn it back in seemed very off-putting.

Why did they have to turn them back in? Was there some error in printing? Did thousands of Bibles get printed only to be shredded?

No? Well then...

Did they make a business decision that it would be too costly to print them en masse?

This seems to be the case. There have been too many folks "giving" away Bibles with the plasticky covers.

I admit I was one of those, rather than place the magazines I'd put 8 or ten NWT's in my bookbag and sometimes place all of them in one day.

Somehow I felt this was better than placing WTS study literature. Why? I dunno... maybe because it is a translation of the Holy Scriptures even if heavily slanted towards WTS beliefs.

I think that not enough contributions were donated for these cheap Bibles.

The new covers were supposed to cut down the price by a US dollar per copy.

Or so we were told.

The Friends didn't even contribute a dollar per copy when all was said, printed, shipped, picked up and placed.

In other words, Bible printing was losing the WTS money and that was a big "No, no!".

So the new grey Bibles underwent a trial run to see what publishers thought of them and the question was: Would they contribute enough to make money on the new Bibles?

Obviously the answer is "No!" Not unless all the cheap Bibles were all gone. The fancy features of the new Grey Bible weren't enough to make publishers prefer them to the cheap plasticky cover issue.

So the plasticky covers had to go. No more printing of these cheap NWT Bibles.

Now the publishers would be "forced" to use the new versions.

When the only Bible you can get is the new one, it simplifies matters.

And when the new Bible is introduced there'll be a lot of "encouragement"

to donate what a real retail leather covered Bible would cost at a bookstore,

so every publisher should own one and also place these new Bibles with every call.

Then, the WTS hopes to make some good bucks on the ol' Scriptures once again.

Have you seen one of these trial-basis Grey Bibles?

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Watchtower Apple (Bible delete) and Tract Society (Delete Bible0

by Slidin Fast in

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oppostate

Having had one of the new grey leatherette and silver edged bibles with the new appendixes in my hand I can say that I was not very impressed with the fact that the CO's who'd been given one had to turn it back in.

Why did they have to turn them back in?

Was there some error? Did thousands of Bibles get printed only to be shredded?

Or did they make a business decision that it would be too costly to make them currently?

It seems the latter is the case. There have been too many folks "giving" away Bibles with the plasticky covers.

Not enough contributions were donated for these cheap Bibles. The new covers were supposed to cut down the price by a US dollar per copy.

Or so we were told. The Friends didn't even contribute a dollar per copy when all was said, printed, shipped, picked up and placed.

In other words, Bible printing was losing the WTS money and that was a big "No, no!".

The new grey Bibles underwent a trial to see what publishers thought and would they contribute enough to make money on them.

Obviously the answer is "No!" Not unless all the cheap Bibles are gone.

When the only Bible you can get is the new one. There'll be a lot of "encouragement" to donate what a retail leather covered Bible would cost at a bookstore. Then, the hope is to make some good bucks on the ol' Scriptures.

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Merrimack New Hampshire KH Project denied credit by WT seeks $ from others

by bnybyt in

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the merrimack congregation in nh is seeking to buy land and build a new kh, the nh rbc has plans to build a $750,000 (that's right a three quarter million kh).

"the branch" has wanted to build a kh between the cities of concord and manchester nh for quite a few years now.

unfortunately the wt has looked into their resources, local bank account is over $100,000, and they can contribute $2,000 monthly towards a mortgage.

oppostate

Vote with your pocketbook.......

Indeed!

Well said.

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Where are all the new members?

by Captain Obvious in

with the changes in doctrine being fully unveiled at the dc this year, i expected many to wake up.

the dcs have been going on for a month now, i fully expected to be welcoming new members by now!

am i just being impatient?

oppostate

The ones I've spoken to don't have a problem with the FDS change.

One of them said straight out "Well, that makes more sense, doesn't it?"

I don't expect much of an exodus at all. I do hope I'm wrong, though.