Posts by oppostate

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Disturbing hidden image in w15 04/15 page 9 (Not DF image)

by campaign of hate in

could someone do me a favor and post the picture on page 9 on the above mentioned watchtower.. i'll point it out, very surprised no one else has picked up on this creepy image..

oppostate

Wow! I can really see the images clearly now that Punkofnice optimized them!

Who would have thunk it? Does that make me color blind?

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These Aussie girls are popular around the world for lipsing

by barry in

jw
friends

www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmpqusqcjfg.

what on gods earth is the world coming too.

oppostate

"That was pretty good[!]" (highlighting and emphasis mine =)

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We are slowly moving away from that kind of preaching work

by oppostate in

john hoyle--jws go knocking on strangers doors and try to get inside homes to preach.. wt rep--we are slowly moving away from that kind of preaching work, we do more preaching by using literature carts and personal telephone calls.. .

the above quote is from john hoyle's website:http://insidethewatchtower.com/doctrine/phone-calls-to-bethel-jw-org-email-and-contacts/.

it's interesting, isn't it?

oppostate

so fundamentally change the nature of JWs that the organization would become unrecognizable.

Fundamentally this is another permutation in the ever ongoing changes of the WTS. From Russell to Rutherford, to Knorr, to GB 1, and post Ray Franz GB-(hardass version 1.1, then lately GB 2.0--and mosr currently GB 2.1 the "Soft"-ware version.

From what the WT religion used to be when I got bapt'ed in the 80's compared to now, this is indeed quite an unrecognizable organization.

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Why are Battle Against Faith

by Jonathan Drake in

if any are willing, share your fact based reasons for viewing faith as dangerous.

viewing faith as dangerous is the reason for almost all of my posts recently.

what seems constant is that theists are too focused on there own little world to realize how and why faith is so damaging to society.

oppostate

Faith is the root of confidence (literally) and trust. If you trust statistics and that proof results are accurate then your belief is based on faith that there was no shenanigans in the compilation of data used to prove a point as true to one's satisfaction.

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Tsongas Center Lowell MA, Sunday Session of the Regional Convention 2015

by oppostate in

we're breaking up the regional convention event by going each of the days to a different weekend session.. the tsongas center lowell ma was a bit hard to find, we got lost and got there after the first song and prayer (just in time for the first talk)!

we ran into so many from our home congregation who aren't even assigned to this rc!.

i think it's quite common for publishers now to break up the convention weekend and attend at times when their congregation isn't assigned.. some families (3) were attending this particular convention so as to meet up with family members who are in another part of the region.

oppostate

We're breaking up the Regional Convention event by going each of the days to a different weekend session.

The Tsongas Center Lowell MA was a bit hard to find, we got lost and got there after the first song and prayer (just in time for the first talk)! We ran into so many from our home congregation who aren't even assigned to this RC!

I think it's quite common for publishers now to break up the convention weekend and attend at times when their congregation isn't assigned.

Some families (3) were attending this particular Convention so as to meet up with family members who are in another part of the Region. Others just because they wanted to check out the fresh meat on display in the concourse hallway during the lunch break. (Yup, I know, I was a hormone crazed youngster myself back in the day.) And were staying with friends outside their home circuits.

The total attendance was laughable for a Sunday session 3,582. I turned to my wife and said "We must be the two in that figure" since we arrived so late. Actually there was more than one count in the afternoon. I know that if the day's chairman or another bigwig doesn't think the figure is high enough there's another count taken, usually it is higher, and attendants are told to count people who are not in their seats but in the hallways for quite an extended time, and to count the empty seat if they saw someone get up during the count, that had previously been sitting there in the audience and there were books or bags still there at the seat.

This means that people getting to the bathrooms may be counted when sitting, when walking "to" the bathroom and then counted again when returning "from" the bathrooms--this includes cleaning volunteers and those who just wanted to stretch their legs, or meet up with a love interest, or to pacify a crying or squirmy infant who's had way too much sitting time. And of course there are those sad brothers and sisters who are assigned to go into the smelly bathrooms to count those "present" there. So double, triple and quadruple counting some attendees for higher figures' sake.

I was attendant overseer in Hallways for a number of years in my District, I know what goes on. (So, yeah, they have their tricks to increase attendance figures without an obvious crisis of conscience hitting them while doing so ;-)

I missed the baptism figure. I was cruising the hallways and ran into more people from our local congregation--those not assigned there--and we were chatting so I missed the previous day's baptism figures. I'll have to ask my wife and see how these measure up with past conventions.

Overall it was an easy Convention day to get through. I was either napping, promenading to the bathrooms, or chatting through most talks and videos in the concourse hallway. I complained to my wife that the box of raisins I snacked on while driving to the Tsongas Center made it "difficult" to sit through the program. (I know, TMI.) But there was more sh¡t coming from the stage than getting flushed down the toilets--just saying!

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Very Offensive Statement Directed To JW Parents-Watchtower 4/15/2015 Page 11 Paragraph 9

by JW GoneBad in

wt is insinuating, worse yet, blaming senior jw parents for there not being more younger brothers reaching out to be ministerial servants and elders.

page 11 paragraph 9 reads as follows: .

"elders in affluent lands may face an added challenge: how to motivate baptized brothers in their 20s or 30s to get involved in congregation activities.

oppostate

This "survey" never happened. It's another total fabrication

I'd take into consideration Cedars yearly survey rather than this sham JW Survey at the hands of the WT religious corporate lackeys.

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The moral problem of Ephesians 5:23

by opusdei1972 in

for the husband is the head of the wife as christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the savior.

(ephesians 5:23).

if jesus is the head of the church, jesus is responsible for the many contradictions contained in the new testament.

oppostate

How much control is acceptable for a husband to impose on his wife?

Could a husband prevent his wife from cheating on him?

Could a husband prevent his wife from committing heinous crimes?

I think putting the blame on Jesus for the wrong acts of those who claim to act in his name is misguided.

Jesus is quoted in the Gospels as telling so called followers who said "Lord, lord didn't we do all these wonderful works in your name?" and he would say to them "get away from me you workers of wickedness!"

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Very Offensive Statement Directed To JW Parents-Watchtower 4/15/2015 Page 11 Paragraph 9

by JW GoneBad in

wt is insinuating, worse yet, blaming senior jw parents for there not being more younger brothers reaching out to be ministerial servants and elders.

page 11 paragraph 9 reads as follows: .

"elders in affluent lands may face an added challenge: how to motivate baptized brothers in their 20s or 30s to get involved in congregation activities.

oppostate

The truth never came first in the life of such young ones.

How misleading! The "truth" did actually come first in their lives.

They saw the "lies" of the WTS and the fanatical example of their parents, elders, and spiritual reading material providers and decided that "bullsh¡t" wasn't going to control their futures.

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New David Splane Video: No 1900 Year Faithful Slave

by FusionTheism in

governing body member david splane has a new video on tv.jw.org where he talks about all the horrible things committed by martin luther and the protestant reformers.. his conclusion is that there has been no faithful and discreet slave on the earth during the past 1900 years (before 1919 i guess.).

he also says that maybe there were a few anointed on earth, maybe not.. he did add an interesting statement that he doesn't condemn the other churches just for misunderstanding the bible because the society has done that.. another odd point, was that he actually mentioned catholic missionary work in a somewhat positive light, while totally condemning the reformation views on predestination..

oppostate

FusionTheism
could present more logical problems with this new view from David Splane:

Perhaps at one time what Scriptures clearly say may have put a restraint on what the WT teachings were.

Nowadays, I'm sorry to say, they obviously see themselves even more as the "masters" of Scripture. It doesn't matter that the rNWT is in plain English and not in Latin. What matters now is that they act as the "magisterium" for the JW religion. And all their followers have to kowtow the official latest teachings they pull out of their oligarchical class @rse!

It really sounds like they suddenly realized they have much in common with the Pope and the Catholic College of Cardinals than with the Sola Scriptura Reformers. They should call themselves Jesuit Witnesses.

With the Jesuits also having a literal Governing Body and renown for their Pharisaical shenanigans, they're almost spiritual cousins. Bunch of controlling fanatics that both organizations' hierarchies are!

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We are slowly moving away from that kind of preaching work

by oppostate in

john hoyle--jws go knocking on strangers doors and try to get inside homes to preach.. wt rep--we are slowly moving away from that kind of preaching work, we do more preaching by using literature carts and personal telephone calls.. .

the above quote is from john hoyle's website:http://insidethewatchtower.com/doctrine/phone-calls-to-bethel-jw-org-email-and-contacts/.

it's interesting, isn't it?

oppostate

Hey watchtower, 1955 is calling, they want their sales method back.

Which is exactly the fashion the WTS wanted publishers to present. Good ol' pre-civil rights anglo society. Like in 1940's and 50's U.S. family movies where everyone is white and speaks with that half-brit half-yankee pronunciation and every family has a mom, dad, and 2.5 kids (you can substitute the .5 for a dog if you'd like), and all dad's work in a suit and change into a sweater and slippers like Mr. Rogers, and the mom's are homemakers, dressed in aprons and have flawless hair curls.

Well, the average American Joe has a beer belly and doesn't own a suit, thinks all suits are G-men or sales people, and well, most U.S. women stand up for their rights and don't take kindly to chauvinists (except for scarf wearing, shariah keeping muslims and fundamentalist mormon women).

Single parent homes are quite common now-a-days, the only gays you'll find in the closet, live at Bethel. And going down on your love mate is part of the fun of having a love mate. That's today's U.S. reality.

The WT/JW Org can throw all the technology they want at rebranding their religion. But until they face up to the reality that the post-WWII fashions and mores are a thing of the past, they will continue to bleed out members and keep internet savvy prospective bible students from joining their cultish religion.