the dawn bible students association has a problem.
ken fernets, when on the phone, shows his true colors to women who call.
he engages in flirtatious speech.
Okay, Frank/HMTM, It's been two weeks since I offered to start discussing with you what changes you'd like to see in the WT.
So what do you feel could be done to start reforms and get the WT closer to Biblical and mainstream Christian doctrine?
I'm very interested in hearing your ideas about this.
humanity doesn't need to continue believing in hocus pocus pie in the sky religious hogwash and pipe dreams to have hope of everlasting life.
nor is it necessary to find the fountain of youth or turn off the aging process.. it's only a matter of time until science achieves it.
maybe not decades away, maybe not even centuries, but eventually..... ....mankind will achieve eternal life through a transplant of the human brain into a future highly advanced robotic body.. already the scientific fundmentals for it exist.
LOL! I'd rather look at that tin head on a JW broadcast than see Lett's facial antics any day!
according to leading astronomers the probe philae that landed on the comet 67p last november may have discovered microbial life..... sadly neither the probe nor the orbiter rosetta are equipped to test directly but the evidence is interesting.
these are not easily explained in terms of prebiotic chemistry.
the dark material is being constantly replenished as it is boiled off by heat from the sun.
It'd be so awesome if they confirmed life elsewhere!
I agree, Doc10. And how I do wish I could be around for such news!
Let's see creationists and theologians weasel and squirm their way around that!
Unreasonable minds might. Just like with the un-Solar System and Flat Earth mentality there will be those who close their eyes to any scientific progress.
humanity doesn't need to continue believing in hocus pocus pie in the sky religious hogwash and pipe dreams to have hope of everlasting life.
nor is it necessary to find the fountain of youth or turn off the aging process.. it's only a matter of time until science achieves it.
maybe not decades away, maybe not even centuries, but eventually..... ....mankind will achieve eternal life through a transplant of the human brain into a future highly advanced robotic body.. already the scientific fundmentals for it exist.
Someone should tell them that when it comes to science, the sound of quacking ducks doesn't mean that they are lined up in a row.
Nor flying in a V formation.
Can you imagine the current GB lasting for centuries through bionics!?!
humanity doesn't need to continue believing in hocus pocus pie in the sky religious hogwash and pipe dreams to have hope of everlasting life.
nor is it necessary to find the fountain of youth or turn off the aging process.. it's only a matter of time until science achieves it.
maybe not decades away, maybe not even centuries, but eventually..... ....mankind will achieve eternal life through a transplant of the human brain into a future highly advanced robotic body.. already the scientific fundmentals for it exist.
We love this idea.......
Hah-hah-hah! Good one, Punk! Wouldn'r the GB indeed love that! JW.(b)org
Prosthetics and medical advances. How far will it go? How far will we let it go?
I can see transferring consciousness.
But an organic brain in a cybernetic body? How long would an organic brain continue viable? Wouldn't the cells decay?
humanity doesn't need to continue believing in hocus pocus pie in the sky religious hogwash and pipe dreams to have hope of everlasting life.
nor is it necessary to find the fountain of youth or turn off the aging process.. it's only a matter of time until science achieves it.
maybe not decades away, maybe not even centuries, but eventually..... ....mankind will achieve eternal life through a transplant of the human brain into a future highly advanced robotic body.. already the scientific fundmentals for it exist.
We will all end up as cybermen for sure.
Or Borg drones of the Collective!
in another thread i wrote some notes about why using jehovah in english is as good as using yahweh.
i'm starting a discussion on this topic because it sounds quite ignorant to hear people talk of the monk who started using it in latin without really understanding why the monk did so.. the spanish dominican monk, raymundus martini, in 1270, didn't get hoodwinked by an old jewish superstition about pronouncing the divine name with the vowel points of another word.. 1. first the vowel points of adonay and jehovah cannot be the same for grammatical reasons.
you just can't use the same vowel points because some vowels aren't paired with some consonants in pronouncing hebrew words.
Thanks for your contributions to the discussion FayeD and Listener.
The WT wants to have it both ways it always wants the credit, and it always seeks to put the blame on someone else. Their writing department have become the masters of deception and they've had plenty of practice at it.
However, if you call it shallow scholarship for the Committee to use the word Jehovah in the New World Translation, then you will have to admit that it is due to the shallow scholarship of the Roman Catholic clergy of the thirteenth century
(The Watchtower 1950 12/1)
Just the way that letter appearing in the 1950 WT reads, it smacks of shoddy scholarship and lack of integrity in their publishing. Don't blame us, they seem to say, blame the ones we stole the ideas from. What a bunch of prideful incompetents!
After awakening to the WT's wiles and trickery just reading anything they print makes me nauseous. I do not trust anything they publish at all.
i give you a hint.
who stole first, "eve".
so who stole second and.
Funny!
according to leading astronomers the probe philae that landed on the comet 67p last november may have discovered microbial life..... sadly neither the probe nor the orbiter rosetta are equipped to test directly but the evidence is interesting.
these are not easily explained in terms of prebiotic chemistry.
the dark material is being constantly replenished as it is boiled off by heat from the sun.
The comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko’s black crust and other features are best explained by the fact that it has living organisms under its icy surface, they said.
Rosetta, the European space craft orbiting the comet, is also said to have picked up strange "clusters" of organic material that look suspiciously like viral particles.
Hmmm, looks like maybe Moulder was right when he said "The Truth is out there."
What with the black goo on 67P maybe being living organic material. Or it could be that the Engineers of Prometheus are up to their tricks.
If the black goo on 67P is viral and is brought here we'd may just need those Go-Bags the WT's been telling publishers to have at the ready lest the Zombie Apocalypse wreak havoc on this Old System.
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Orange, read sarcasm.
in another thread i wrote some notes about why using jehovah in english is as good as using yahweh.
i'm starting a discussion on this topic because it sounds quite ignorant to hear people talk of the monk who started using it in latin without really understanding why the monk did so.. the spanish dominican monk, raymundus martini, in 1270, didn't get hoodwinked by an old jewish superstition about pronouncing the divine name with the vowel points of another word.. 1. first the vowel points of adonay and jehovah cannot be the same for grammatical reasons.
you just can't use the same vowel points because some vowels aren't paired with some consonants in pronouncing hebrew words.
I appreciate your words. I do feel that the WT is a full fledged cult by now, it is becoming obvious with every monthly broadcast at JW(dot)org in my opinion.
Evangelicals use the term Jehovah as well, and so do Mormons. Yeah, quite fundamentalist minded folks, I know.
But... Martin the monk (Ramdón Martí alias Raymundus Martini) did do a lot of research and he was known to be quite an expert in Biblical matters and Hebrew commentaries on the Scriptures: Torah, Talmud, Midrash.
Whether we agree or not with his views I would think we owe the Spanish (Catalonian) Dominican monk the respect worthy of a scholarly researcher who sought to refute what he thought as error with words rather than how his fellow religionists dealt with those of a different religious persuasion.
He spoke out against the "tiqqun soferim" or "corrections of scribes" which can be better termed corruptions of the text as Martin saw them. He was definitely a defender of the Hebrew text as and sought to clear out amendations, deletions and replacements by scribes from the Scriptures. I think we would do well to appreciate his dedication to that work for cultural and historical reasons even if we don't agree with his theology.
