de Rooy says he was sickened by the allegations, but... he has no recollection of what these allegations were.
And since there was "only one witness" it was one's word against another. Good grief!
august.
mon 3 (cont) fri 7 .
public hearing: case study 29 into jehovah's witnesses, sydney.
de Rooy says he was sickened by the allegations, but... he has no recollection of what these allegations were.
And since there was "only one witness" it was one's word against another. Good grief!
august.
mon 3 (cont) fri 7 .
public hearing: case study 29 into jehovah's witnesses, sydney.
Monty Baker hasn't given testimony yet.
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de Rooy is getting grilled and roasted.
A repentant incest/child abuser is reproved and goes back to his home, the elders don't report the crime and the abuser remains at home with the abused. Ron de Rooy admits this is true, the elders don't report but would prefer that the accused go to the authorities.
august.
mon 3 (cont) fri 7 .
public hearing: case study 29 into jehovah's witnesses, sydney.
It's starting, got to get the popcorn.
Ron de Rooy is being questioned first.
does anyone in the uk know any details about the above congregation?
it seems it was disbanded by the co specifically because of "lack of love" and members reassigned to other congregations in the reigate and crawley areas.. i've checked the charities commission web site and the charity was removed in may 2012.. http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/showcharity/registerofcharities/removedcharitymain.aspx?registeredcharitynumber=1066699&subsidiarynumber=0.
the cobe was a guy called rossiter (sp?
May be they lacked the love for contributing to the society.
Good one!
With the publishers being spread about on to other congregations it would follow that the rumor mill would quickly tell the tale and spread the gossip all around the circuit and beyond.
This is certainly an unusual reason to disband a congregation, "lack of love". I'd be interested as well in learning what the real situation in the congregation was that lead to this conclusion.
like the title says....those of you who made it out with you husbands or wives.
you people are so lucky!!!.
lucky because your wife or husband isn't brain dead and can think and reason for themselves.
@goingthroughthemotions
I'm in your same situation. To me the fact that my wife puts the views, words, and opinions of a any JW elder above mine on anything not just those things related to religion and belief is almost a form of adultery.
Remember the Scripture about the three thong cord that wouldn't easily be torn in two? Well, the WT's added itself in as a forth thong, and it's chaffing my bum, because this thong is continually getting frizzly frazzled, irritated and progressively becoming irrelevantly redundant in this marriage relationship.
The marriage vows I spoke were to my wife before God, and they didn't include the WT. How the heck do they dare butt into my marriage relationship and steal away my wife's soul, this brazen, butt-faced, marriage-wrecking Cult!
does anyone in the uk know any details about the above congregation?
it seems it was disbanded by the co specifically because of "lack of love" and members reassigned to other congregations in the reigate and crawley areas.. i've checked the charities commission web site and the charity was removed in may 2012.. http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/showcharity/registerofcharities/removedcharitymain.aspx?registeredcharitynumber=1066699&subsidiarynumber=0.
the cobe was a guy called rossiter (sp?
It seems it was disbanded by the CO specifically because of "lack of love" and members reassigned to other congregations
I've never heard of a congregation being disbanded for "lack of love". But... Maybe it was lack of love for the Gobbering Body and its traveling representatives.
found this video on youtube about metro-pioneers.. watch out!
tight pants exiting the kh!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldb0oqpcupe.
It seems that in Japan, Anthony Morris III's talk against tight pants was not translated accurately or forcefully enough.
friends at a regional convention in Chiba, Japan. Photo shared by @chatoraoi
watchtower marketing incentive rewards for young single baptized males in the 0rganization.. .
the face of the photobombing brother in the background says it all.
like a child in a candy shop.
I'm glad to be free, but the realization that since I'll be 58 this month. i don't have a lot of time left to do it my way.
So true, F2b, so very true.
For us who've given the best decades of our lives to this cult, feeling like we've been robbed is naturally going to raise up feelings of great disappointment and anger.
We may be out, but we cannot claim back the precious time of our younger days. How can we reclaim that? How could we ever get that back?
And if we're still in due to family it can make us feel trapped, having to be in constant opposition to the control of the WT hierarchy with every article they print, yet careful with whatever we say in every conversation with a JW under their spell. Constantly reminded how they continue to steal others' lives and best years for their corporate benefit.
this is from conti's appeal veredict:.
monica applewhite, a clinical social worker and an expert on child sexual abuse, testified for defendants that watchtowers policy against disclosing private information .
very closely mirror[ed] the codes of ethics of the national association of social workers and the american counseling association.
I think that in the case of Dr. Applewhite, money talks, in fact money talks bull$hit. They pay her to present a cozy moral, caring image for the WT.
Her testimony before the Royal Commission was exposed as lacking factual basis.She was shown up to be inaccurate in her report and that makes one doubt her integrity, she was either colluding or she was totally ignorant, in either case she's not a truthful expert nor accurate witness.How could she ever be used in any child abuse courtcases, like the Conti case, when she has obviously sold her reputation on behalf of the WT and for their 0rganizational Corporate benefit against child abuse victims.
watchtower marketing incentive rewards for young single baptized males in the 0rganization.. .
the face of the photobombing brother in the background says it all.
like a child in a candy shop.
I understand your point but why the immature word substitution for "governing"?
That is an excellent question and I'm glad you asked it. The answer is simple. Anger.
I feel an emotional release by retaliating verbally against a group of men that controlled and governed over my mind and soul for the better part of my youth and my productive years as a human being.
They set themselves above anyone else, in fact just between God and men, promising a better life, everlasting life if we followed their rules and regulations, if we gave our minds and our energy to their purposes.
Becoming awake to their manipulation and no longer wrapped around their pinky ringed finger, I find myself ostracized and relegated to their rubbish pile, discarded and put away, mentally diseased, worthless in their eyes.
I oppose their judgement of me as somehow lacking, as not being good enough, as worthy of disdain.
When I verbally strike out at them with sophomoric expressions it reminds me that they are just a bunch of incompetent spiritual shepherds, whose leadership is based on mind control and cultish practices.
Making fun of their right to "govern" helps me cut them down to size in my mind, and I find this therapeutic.
Immature? Perhaps, maybe even probably so, but I find that although intellectually I have grown and advanced mentally through the years, emotionally I was prevented from growing in many ways by belonging to their 0rganization.
This group of men practice a bait and switch scam where they appeal to your reason in separating you from whatever other beliefs you may have held then they change over from reason to emotion. Enticing you with promises of a never ending life of bliss.
We are kept emotionally in suspense over this ever approaching fulfillment of a wonderful new earth where the lion will eat straw and live with the lamb side by side, where there will no one to do harm. We are held back by a false hope that fills our minds and hearts with devotion and obedience to their every word, to their ever changing doctrines and regulations.
We are taught to suspend our belief in the truth we experience and place our hope in their Truth, in their assurances of a better experience full of love and care.
When you see they are not really motivated by love nor care and that their goal is to further their corporate empire, then you become worthless to them, even a threat to their establishment.
It feels good to use sophomoric name calling as an outlet for my disappointment and ongoing disgust with the WT hierarchy. It would probably feel better to personally beat the crap out of them.
But then, away from their mind control, accepting the moral guidelines of the Christian Gospel, I find myself reaching out for a better emotional state. Improving my outlook on humanity, and seeing the beauty of diversity, whereas through their teaching I thought myself better than those in the world, set apart, special and remaining emotionally bound.
Breaking those bonds hasn't been easy. But I'm realizing I am part of this living and thriving world, where we all have a right, perhaps even a basic human need, to search for the truth and find meaning in our lives.
As I grow emotionally I see the mental scars of their bindings fading, but while they remain they're a constant reminder of their abuse and coercion into submission.
If lashing out at them with sophomoric name calling allows me to let go of the anger inside and continue allowing myself to emotionally break with them and see them as the pitiful little tyrants they are then so be it. Gobbering Body be damned!