Posts by oppostate

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Has the WT ever said it's okay to steak rare?
by neverendingjourney in
1. watchtower
2. bible
i'm revisiting an old topic here, but this was a subject of much confusion for me when i was still a witness.

i went to a spanish congregation in the u.s. and it seemed to be taken for granted by most that you needed to cook beef thoroughly to "get rid" of the blood.

i was surprised when i learned that folks in the english speaking hall would order a steak medium-rare and think nothing of it.. it wasn't until after i left the witnesses that it started to occur to me that if the red fluid that was present when you'd cut the beef was blood, cooking it thoroughly wouldn't get rid of it, it'd just cook it and transform it into another color.
oppostate

I never liked a rare or medium rare after articles about ecoli and nastiness about meat.
But I do remember one talk where a brother went into this saying that the juices from meat aren't really flowing blood as you would consider it in the veins and arteries and if you properly bled the meat you would still have juices left in the muscle tissue.
I guess the consideration is that when an animal is killed for food and all reasonable measures are taken to bleed it properly then it's okay to eat eve if there's residual amounts of blood still left in the meat.
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Governing Body member is in Australia right now!
by Anonymous1 in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
sorry i have to remain completely anonymous about this but you will see why.

i have first hand knowledge that geoffrey jackson of the governing body is staying with his parents in toowoomba, queensland for the next few weeks.

he has already been in australia for a couple of weeks.
oppostate

I just sent an email to the contact address for the Royal Commission about requesting Geoffrey Jackson to appear before the RC.
I believe it would be a milestone appearance if it happens--to question one of the men who can effect change in the procedures for handling cases of child abuse.
If you haven't yet I would urge anyone on the forum to consider writing an email to the RC requesting G.J.'s appearance and give testimony.
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... and keep fighting
by nevaagain in
1. jw
2. friends
last week we had the cos visit and i wanted to share my experiences with you.

some background info on me, i knowttatt and am fully awake, my wife also knows my doubts and read a few things on the internet but she is still 100% commited to the truth, saying everything on the apostate sites are lies.

so right now i am in just to keep the status quo.
oppostate

My wife is also quite loyal to the Org. This sounds like something she would do.
I believe she volunteered to feed them lunch by asking the elders to do it and mentioning how it would help you to have these highly spiritual brothers at the dinner table, (maybe some of their spiritual mojo would rub off on you : - )
The COBE appraised the CO of who it is that he'd be eating lunch with--a faithful sister and an weak brother who is troubled over child abuse situations in the JW religion.
The CO and the sub-CO talked before hand about their having lunch at your place and discussed what the COBE said about you and your wife's situation.
The sub-CO brought up the subject to try and draw you out. His wife just went along with it, or was made aware of this situation by her husband.
You were wise to keep mostly quiet and listen without getting exposed. The CO will likely tell the COBE how the lunch went and what his opinion of you and your situation was.
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Royal Commission live streamingstarting soon!
by possum in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
august.

mon 3 (cont) fri 7 .

public hearing: case study 29 into jehovah's witnesses, sydney.
oppostate

The lawyer for the complainant (BCG) named Ms. David was getting quite exasperated. Quite a contrast to the cool and smooth Mr. Stewart. But the important thing is that they're not letting de Rooy get away with much.
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Royal Commission live streamingstarting soon!
by possum in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
august.

mon 3 (cont) fri 7 .

public hearing: case study 29 into jehovah's witnesses, sydney.
oppostate

Oy, the notes clearly state that the father had abused the younger daughters and the older one BCG, the testimony was given by the mom... there's the two witnesses and if they had asked the little ones it would have been four witnesses.
But de Rooy doesn't recall that.
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Royal Commission live streamingstarting soon!
by possum in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
august.

mon 3 (cont) fri 7 .

public hearing: case study 29 into jehovah's witnesses, sydney.
oppostate

It looks like the WT lawyer sitting behind Mr. Stewart just did a discreet facepalm
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Royal Commission live streamingstarting soon!
by possum in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
august.

mon 3 (cont) fri 7 .

public hearing: case study 29 into jehovah's witnesses, sydney.
oppostate

Judge asks him, but the civil courts can act with just the word of one witness, were you aware of that?
Nope, he wasn't! What a doof!
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Royal Commission live streamingstarting soon!
by possum in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
august.

mon 3 (cont) fri 7 .

public hearing: case study 29 into jehovah's witnesses, sydney.
oppostate

de Rooy says he was sickened by the allegations, but... he has no recollection of what these allegations were.
And since there was "only one witness" it was one's word against another. Good grief!
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Royal Commission live streamingstarting soon!
by possum in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
august.

mon 3 (cont) fri 7 .

public hearing: case study 29 into jehovah's witnesses, sydney.
oppostate

Monty Baker hasn't given testimony yet.
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de Rooy is getting grilled and roasted.
A repentant incest/child abuser is reproved and goes back to his home, the elders don't report the crime and the abuser remains at home with the abused. Ron de Rooy admits this is true, the elders don't report but would prefer that the accused go to the authorities.
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Royal Commission live streamingstarting soon!
by possum in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
august.

mon 3 (cont) fri 7 .

public hearing: case study 29 into jehovah's witnesses, sydney.
oppostate

It's starting, got to get the popcorn.
Ron de Rooy is being questioned first.