So regardless of the methodology the number comes out quite similar. This means that the estimates are well founded and one could give credence to the amount of over twice what the WT reported to the RC.
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We can now estimate the absolute minimum number of child abuse cases
by Viviane invincent tool said that he is exclusively working the phones for child abuse cases, but never said he is not the only one.
for now, let's assume the rate of abuse cases averages over time to the three or four cases he gets per month.
let's further assume that, since he isn't the only person working the phones and is on vacation at some point, the number is 4-5 per month, or 4.5 per month.
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Many thanks to Simon. This RC Commission is the 'magnum opus'
by Esse quam videri inthis is when all the pieces of the puzzle come together.
many thanks to simon for creating a forum which allows us to get a clear sense of what is happening.
without this forum i would still be wandering in the wilderness.
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Hear, hear!
Simon deserves a good pint of beer
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Did you hear that!? His Honour is insisting that Jackson attend the Royal Commission
by umbertoecho ini actually started clapping at that point, as his honour explained to the wt type creep sycophantic slithery lawyer that........" i understand that we all have issues to face in life and .....that is a part of life...........however it has become obvious that this man ....is in such a position to assist with this investigation.....".
it boils down to the fact that stewart outright accused the latest witness of misleading the royal commission and this lead to some document searches which led his honour to conclude that they had been protecting mr jackson.
this was a warm and fluffy moment folks.................brilliant stuff!!!!!
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One thing concerning the FDS doctrine is for sure, now that the teaching is changed to mean only the Gobbering Body is the FDS they can't share the blame with all the previously-known-as-FDS anointed members.
They wanted it all, no room for anyone else to be called FDS, well now they can have all the responsibility. This spiritual construct that is not an incorporated entity as the WT lawyers called them in the Unthank case. Maybe Jackson can explain that one.
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by LostinJapan inwednesday 5 , day 7 live hearing.
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Yup!Spinks and O'Brien tried to shield Jackson from appearing before the RC and gave the lame excuse that he couldn't be of much help since he only deals with translation matters. Well Mr. Stewart exposed that lame lie!
So Mr. MacClelan has just asked for Jackson to appear next week! Yay!
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by LostinJapan inwednesday 5 , day 7 live hearing.
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Angus looks angry about the shunning issue in which a victim of abuse leaves, disassociates from the religion and she's shunned by family and friends.
Wow! That's it, today Angus Stewart is my hero!
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by LostinJapan inwednesday 5 , day 7 live hearing.
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The only reason the blonde is there is for distractionary purposes.....
and to make it look like the WT likes and uses women...
I seem to recall that the WT used a woman lawyer in the Unthank case.
And as Toole was asked, he has a woman lawyer in the law office business (a front).
Could she be either of these two?
In any case the "blonde" hasn't said a peep, hasn't asked any questions, just makes facial expressions and readjusts her hair or talks to the guys to her side, sitting there looking pretty and smug.
It would be interesting to know her involvement with the WT and exactly what role she plays before the RC.
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by LostinJapan inwednesday 5 , day 7 live hearing.
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Amazing how disorganised this org appears when it's to their advantage.
Indeed. The whole organization structure is micromanaged to the umpteenth degree--the hierarchy is so anal about following direction and making reports just right and then they are asked questions before a judge and it's: "I don't recall," "I don't remember," "I'm not aware of that," "I am not involved in that specific aspect so I can't comment," "I can't give an answer to that hypothetical question," "You're asking me to respond to an absolute and I just can't do that," "I'm not involved with the legal dept.," "I'm not involved with the Service Dept.," "I'm not aware of the Branch Committee's manual"...
Of course not, WT drones only recall and remember when the WT lawyer asks a question!
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by LostinJapan inwednesday 5 , day 7 live hearing.
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I'm looking forward to the Branch Manual being brought up with O'Brien. Remember that Toole said he knew nothing about it even though he's the senior member of the Branch's legal dept.
Mr. Stewart probably has some good questions coming up concerning that publication.
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Also, Morrits (sp?) is 90 years old and knows what the letter mentioning a "list" actually meant. If these cases go back to 1950 then I'm sure the list back then was kept on hardcopy. To say there's no list because there's no printout would be obfuscating the issue.
They do keep a list as a database, and they could provide a report printout or file from the database that contains all the names and the case files.
If the Branch can't come up with this information then New York, Bethel, can surely extract the cases for Australia from their 23,720 child abusers on file at Jehovah’s Witness headquarters.
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by LostinJapan inwednesday 5 , day 7 live hearing.
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Right, he doesn't know about theocratic warfare strategy.
If he doesn't know that terminology he surely knows about the concept. It's been studied and studied over the years. Toole is quite a tool--of the WT!
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by LostinJapan inwednesday 5 , day 7 live hearing.
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That's right Mephis--Toole just said "people have an absolute right to speak to whomever they want to"! And my jaw dropped!
How about a DF'ed person can they speak to them, I guess they have the right, the "absolute right" to do so, and they can also be held to account before elders for doing so and maybe even expelled from the congregation if they insist in talking "to whomever they want to".
Toole is such a liar! He's not giving a true picture of what JW religion's expectations are.