So I guess I want to peg him down a notch or two. Franz wanted to rule the world like everybody else, and he had personal selfish motivations. His supposed pure altruism was pure horse manure.
Out of the [pure] abundance of his heart St.B. speaks.
a while ago the user vinman started a forum thread called: "ray franz was an idiot".
the reaction to it was quite negative but i have to admit that the title of that thread was intriguing to me.
by nature i am an iconoclast.
So I guess I want to peg him down a notch or two. Franz wanted to rule the world like everybody else, and he had personal selfish motivations. His supposed pure altruism was pure horse manure.
Out of the [pure] abundance of his heart St.B. speaks.
this photo was on jw-archive.. sisters are now passing microphones due to a lack of qualified brothers.
this was in a english speaking group in slovenia .
i feel sorry for the guy in the blue shirt!
movie stars travel to, or buy their own private beaches, they get invited to fun parties, and are able to buy not one, but several fast sport cars like jay leno.
they can buy their own planes and helicopters and fly them like harrison ford.
(how much fun would that be?
Didn't someone say once "it's good to be the king"?
The GB live WT King lives, they get the admiration and the respect, the treatment and the perks of being a WT personality.
If we judge by the past, CT Russell and Joe Rutherford were guilty of indiscretions with young gals. The Judge for four days Rutherford had a liking for expensive Scotch and other spirits. Then there is Greenlees and Chitty's fondness for young male bodies.
I think the GB gets away with a lot that a R&F witness wouldn't dare get involved in.
anybody see the new cartoon?
the girl has a quarter and is going to get an ice cream but then puts it in the contribution box instead.
the gb want to make sure they guilt and suck the kids meager allowances dry as well and prep them as they grow up to keep giving!
It would have been much better if they'd shown her wanting to buy an ice cream and then seeing another child without one and buying the other child an ice cream and watching the pleasure on the other child's face, More realistic and in my opinion a lot more effective in teaching a child about generosity.
@Tornapart
that's an excellent lesson that could help children see the meaning of compassion and caring, thanks for your very nice and wise idea.
On the other hand, the WT's lesson leaves one with a bad taste. To deny a child a moment of happiness for the greedy profit of an organization is immoral. Shame on the WT and their whole hierarchy!
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/jul/27/jehovahs-witnesses-destroyed-notes-about-child-sex-abuse-inquiry-told.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/27/us-australia-religion-sexcrimes-iduskcn0q10ih20150727.
http://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/07/28/australia-jehovah-witness-sex-abuse-hannigan-lklv.cnn.
"Apostate" is anything or anyone who stands in opposition to anything currently taught as Truth(c) by the WT hierarchy. Christendom is "apostate", so is any news source daring to publish any news negative of the WT/JW 0rganization.
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LisaRose said:
You are correct that the word apostate, (which is not even found in the bible btw),
The word "apostate" appears in numerous verses and in numerous versions of the Bible:
http://biblehub.net/search.php?q=apostate
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(I should know. After all my middle name is "Oppostate" (well actually just my forum nick' =)
the actual lecture starts around the 10 minute mark.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvjzqwy9dve.
"Her insan dogar, yaşar, ve ölür."
Every human being is born, lives, and dies.
guess the overlapping generation concept is difficult for most to comprehend.
david spane does his best to explain it again.
the cutoff date for this generation has now moved to 1992 (was once 1935), the year that fred franz died.
I Can confirm this is true. They are all happyfied over on jwtalk. They are all saying how wonderful the "this generation" teaching was set out by Davy boy!
link?
a lot of people, ex-jws, believers and unbelievers alike, think that jw's are just a somewhat kooky brand of christianity.
is it possible to "try and follow jesus" and not be christian?
what exactly makes someone a christian?
Cyprian 200 - 258 AD.
@Perry
Cyprian reads like an organizational nut. He's hell bent on hierarchy and following men.
In my view JW's and Mormons are as Christian as any Catholic, Orthodox, Calvinist or Messianic Jews. They are all humans claiming to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. No one to my knowledge can claim to do this to perfection.
It is when people place themselves as the only representatives and intermediaries or vicars for Christ that they start to abuse ecclesiastical office and misuse power causing suffering and discord among Christian believers.
guess the overlapping generation concept is difficult for most to comprehend.
david spane does his best to explain it again.
the cutoff date for this generation has now moved to 1992 (was once 1935), the year that fred franz died.
That would bring us nicely to a 1975 style crescendo in 2034 and then a big let down with a 1976 style reorganizing at HQ like in the days of Knorr/Franz and the GB usurpers gang. Maybe a charismatic new leader/womanizer/boozer like Joe Rutherford will take over for the GB 2.0 become the official JW.0rg webmaster and declare a new overlap on the overlapping continuum.
i went through the original footage to get a good look at the watch.. from these pictures we can probably say that it is a apple watch and that it has a golden color.
the color on the pin is black, and the band is white, grey, silvery or beige.. .
the pin is in the exact place for it to be a apple watch.. only apple watch edition have the gold color.
This pic is making the rounds at fb. Funny thing is many JW's are like-thumbing it. ???