Posts by oppostate

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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

by Simon in

judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.

oppostate

One thing I'm noticing is that the courts aren't buying the WT's tactics of trying to legally separate the hierarchy from the corporations.

The CCJW "is" the WTB&TS in drag. In fact, the WTB&TS has many and sundry incorporated dresses it likes to wear.

From Australian courts the WT's defense of the Governing Body not being a legally identifiable "body" didn't seem to fly once the Australian Royal Commission started asking questions.

Loesch's refusal to testify, saying the WT has no control over him and he has no control of the WT isn't flying well this time either. I'd love to see him be subpoena'ed and forced to appear, the lying filthy-lucre-loving hypocrite!

Fining the WT $4k per day hits them hard where it hurts. They hate paying out money, as their main emphasis has been trying to rake in as much of it as they can. But they're bleeding money fast!

I applaud the plaintiffs determined fight to get justice and the judge's sharp vision in seeing through the pall of fog and lies of the WT.

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Some Comments On Facebook From Some Of My Relatives After Leaving EU

by disillusioned 2 in

everyone talking about leaving the eu, i am concerned and excited.

mostly i look forward to seeing bible prophecy coming true and i keep my mum in the forefront of my mind.. me too sis!.

we left eu.

oppostate

The JW.0rg facebook fan page has over 12,000 members.
There are also "hundreds" of JW groups on FB.

So yeah, the counsel not to join social media isn't followed much.

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Nobody at work knows what JWs believe

by Athanasius in

recently susie, one of my co-workers mentioned that her husband's family were all jws.

the family converted after susie's husband left home, so he never joined the jws, nor does he intend to.

anyway another co-worker asked her: "what do the jws believe?".

oppostate

The "Jesus is not the mediator for the other sheep" caught me totally by surprise after I'd been an elder for five years. How I never knew that before was beyond me!

So yeah, many JW's have little clue about many "deep" truths of the Watchtower religion.

A co-worker once remarked that JW's believed in polygamy. "No, that was the mormons" I retorted. And to myself I thought "Hey, that could solve the problem of so many single sisters, wouldn't it?"

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I Just had a CLOSE ENCOUNTER of the Dub kind

by TerryWalstrom in

i just frightened a jehovah’s witness lady half out of her wits!.

i just frightened a sweet jehovah’s witness lady half out of her wits.... .

she took off like a sprinter at the sound of a starter pistol!.

oppostate

but there's something there. . . I hope.

The something there on your Lady friend is probably PTSD upsurging ;-)

No, but really... What I find interesting is that you were very upfront with her--you didn't try to mislead her into some sort of 'poztate trap. You told her exactly what your experience had been and your estimation of the WT religion being a "cult".

She could have defended her belief instead of running off. Maybe she felt inadequate about speaking back, not being able to express thoughts in a second language? I dunno, maybe?

Or then again, even though she seems like she was a JW n00b, and quite inexperienced at informal witnessing, her cult mind seems to have taken over and called for a quick retreat to safety away from exposure to anti-cult witnessing.

One thing's for sure,though, Terry, your writing is very vivid and descriptive. You're really developing quite a gift for writing, kudos!

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Printing presses, bye... bye...

by sp74bb in

jw
friends

bye... bye.... no more new printing presses for jw.org... the growth is so tremendous (irony...).. all printing work in europe will be arrange in the next month only in selters (germany), but no renovation or upgrading in printing presses is expected... it will be a full outsourcing :).

a worldly company axel s******* will be used.

this company is known to be printing bild newspaper... the interesting part of it is the logistics will be as well outsourced.

oppostate

There is no way the R&F will see it as any kind of indication that Jehoover is no longer blessing things but I would love to have been a fly on the wall when the GB heavies told the British branch committee they were losing all of this and being relegated to a second tier sorting office. That really would have wiped the smile off their smug, self obsessed faces...

The demise of the once highly esteemed (in JWdom world) and renowned I.B.S.A.

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Printing presses, bye... bye...

by sp74bb in

jw
friends

bye... bye.... no more new printing presses for jw.org... the growth is so tremendous (irony...).. all printing work in europe will be arrange in the next month only in selters (germany), but no renovation or upgrading in printing presses is expected... it will be a full outsourcing :).

a worldly company axel s******* will be used.

this company is known to be printing bild newspaper... the interesting part of it is the logistics will be as well outsourced.

oppostate

Similar rumors are going around in Facebook.

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Need advice

by Drwho in

i'm a middle aged man.

i dated a jw lady for 3 months ., we never had sex, just made out , half naked , well everything except underwear .

she has been a jw for 40 years ., was married to a jw but he committed adultery 13 years ago so they divorced .

oppostate

I ve never been a fan of revenge , so I guess thats all it would be
How sad to be a part of this , poor people.
Thanks for the advice , I wont go to her Elders then

@DrWho

- If you stay with her and get closer the elders will find out eventually and it will lead to the same.

- If you leave her she'll still be indoctrinated in the cult.

- If you call the elders and spill the beans it may lead to her waking up from the cult.

You can't really win, it seems to me, so why not help her get out of this mind controlling cult?

You're not acting in revenge. In the elders view she's already done the "dirty" by heavy petting, passionate caressing and kissing, and what-not in nothing but underwear.

If the elders ever find out she did this it will lead to the same thing as if you told them what happened. She'll resent you either way. So the sooner it gets resolved and she can start waking up to this cult the better.

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Need advice

by Drwho in

i'm a middle aged man.

i dated a jw lady for 3 months ., we never had sex, just made out , half naked , well everything except underwear .

she has been a jw for 40 years ., was married to a jw but he committed adultery 13 years ago so they divorced .

oppostate

@DrWho

Best thing I could think of that you could do to help her wake up from the cult is to call her congregation, ask to speak to a couple of elders on the phone, they like to talk in pairs anyway.

Then share with them that she was putting pressure on you about the religion and you like her a lot, you've made out with heavy petting and fondling to the point of passion, ehem, but even though you like her a lot, you are not happy about the religious pressure and you want to get their understanding on whether she should be ok with just the relationship being sexually and emotionally involved, without bringing religion into it.

The fact that the elders know about her sexually charged encounters with you will start a process whereby she'll have to face up to the ugly side of the religion. It's like pulling back the curtain and seeing who the real Wizzard of Oz actually is.

Give her the jolt she needs. She is either going to reject you for not being a Witness or reject the Witnesses for forcing her to go against her sensual desires. Yeah, it may get ugly and she'll blame you for getting her in hot water with the elders, but if she's really that loyal to the Witnesses that's exactly the counsel she'd give to anyone else in her position.

Bunker video spoof by Christian and Katja

by oppostate in

a must watch!

christian and katja do a hilarious spoof on this year's rc's bunker videos.. (btw the rest of their video commentary is right on and worth the watch, too!).

kudos!.

oppostate

A must watch!

Christian and Katja do a hilarious spoof on this year's RC's bunker videos.

(BTW the rest of their video commentary is right on and worth the watch, too!)

Kudos!

https://youtu.be/iZ1MiO38jTs?t=1215

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1930s Vertical Phonograph for Bethelites and Pioneers- of passing interest.

by Balaamsass2 in

just thought this might be of passing interest to a few members.

we were unpacking some estate items from a 1930s bethelite and were confounded by his vertical phonograph.

lots of old rutherford books, and some trashed rutherford records, but the phonograph was something to behold.

oppostate

Pretty clever stuff to peddle Rutherford's religious propaganda.
Even now as in years past the WT likes to use the latest technology for converting and enslaving people into its cult.