Posts by oppostate

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The Finished Mystery: 1917 Print

by Hadriel in

anyone have a copy of this book?

i'll pay hard cash :).. i don't know if this is appropriate to post so if not feel free to can the post.. pm if you have a copy and would part with it..

oppostate

It's available at archive.org in digital format:

https://archive.org/search.php?query=The%20Finished%20Mystery%3A%201917

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Three reasons why I may have to back.

by Crazyguy in

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i look back over the last two years of my life with all the experiences i have read about here and other places and these are three experiences that stand out to me.

recently in another post a girl relates her experience of being in the borg and her mom literally threw her away by giving her over to the state after she accused an elder of groping her.

two; i met the man that wrote the insight books for the borg and even though he was at the time the brians of the borgs doctines when he faded his family , brother and his kids are shunning him.

oppostate

"I met the man that wrote the insight books for the Borg"
And who was that supposed to be?

The Insight books (a two volume set) were a revision of the Aid book. Ray Franz, Ed Dunlap and others worked on that first WT encyclopedic book of the Bible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Franz#Watch_Tower_career

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i am an 'active' jw but i do not agree with most of the doctrines inc blood, baptism, the memorial etc etc.i took the emblems at the memorial because i think we all should recognise and accept jesus' command to remember him.

not for one minute do i think this is only for the so called anointed.

i know it is full of man made error and that my fellow brothers and sisters are in a state of mindless, spiritual unawareness.

oppostate

I think I understand your situation, Damascus.I think there are quite a few here who find themselves now, or have been, in a similar situation to you when awakening from the JW.0rganization's pall.

I've been attending still, but my mouth gets me in trouble, every time. If I say anything that deviates from current JW doctrine it gets reported to the elders and it's just so draining to have to explain yourself to these hounders. Introvert2's claim to be a "Biblical Christian" sounds about right for my own views also.

I'm also partaking because I continue to believe in Jesus as Christ and want to do as he requested in regards to memorializing his sacrificial death and resurrection.

There are a lot of people who've given up on religion of any kind on this forum. If you can put up with that then, as I do, you might find it a place where you can express how you feel and know some can understand what you're going through.

Meleti Vivlon's website is very good. I used to love Channel C too.

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Zone visit Australia?

by stuckinarut2 in

anyone else at this zone visit?.

more higher education bashing, with an embellished "experience"...... more quoting prov 4:18 out of context.. faithful and discreet slave definitions etc..... all the new "understandings" since 2012...... .

we are already in the great tribulation...?.

oppostate

Maybe its the beginning of the overlapping tribulation.

Good one!

Whatta bunch of bullocks these Orwellian fear-mongers keep coming up with.

The hubris of the WT is astounding.

But their path is increasingly darkening not becoming brighter. (Prov 4:18)

And, I do hope the ARC proves to be a major tribulation for this sickening 0rganization.

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New GB video: Why Reduce the Number of Special Full-Time Servants?

by Gorbatchov in

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watchtower released at tv.jw.org a new gb video with samuel f. herd, with the theme:.

why reduce the number of special full-time servants?.

it seems there is a reason to release this special message.. http://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodstudio/pub-jwbrd_201511_4_video.

oppostate

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Reminder about language and content

by Simon in

while the vast majority of posts that the majority of posters share are perfectly fine (which we appreciate) i've noticed we have a few cases where bad language, crude innuendo and outright misogyny is creeping in.. this is not acceptable.. we're not certainly not prudish and neither are we going to enforce puritanical rules - sometimes a politically incorrect joke is funny as hell and sometimes strong language is justified.

but often times content is completely out of place and cannot be justified.. so, please don't post crude content or use expletives just to be "shocking".

it's childish and immature and won't be tolerated.. thank you to all the people this has nothing at all to do with..

oppostate

All right this is it!

NO MORE #$%&@ BAD WORDS *&^$%# ALLOWED is that clear!

Can't we all just get along?

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Years of GB members appointment

by Lostandfound in

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friends

does anyone know the years of appointment to the gb of its current members please?

is the longest serving member in any way the senior?

oppostate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governing_Body_of_Jehovah%27s_Witnesses#Governing_Body_members

Governing Body members

Current

The following people are members of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses[80] (year appointed in parentheses):

Samuel Herd (1999)[81]
Geoffrey Jackson (2005)[82]
M. Stephen Lett (1999)[81]
Gerrit Lösch (1994)[83][84]
Anthony Morris III (2005)[82]
Mark Sanderson (2012)[85][86]
David H. Splane (1999)[81]

Former

Prior to 1971, various Watch Tower Society directors were informally identified as members of the "governing body". Jehovah's Witnesses publications began capitalizing Governing Body as a proper noun in 1971; The Watchtower that year announced "The present Governing Body comprises eleven anointed witnesses of Jehovah." These eleven members are indicated in italics in the list below.[87][88] Years active are shown in parentheses. All members served until their deaths unless specified.

Thomas J. Sullivan (1932–1974)[89][90][91]
Grant Suiter (1938–1983)[92][93]
Nathan Homer Knorr (1940–1977)—4th President of Watch Tower Society[94][95]
Frederick William Franz (1944–1992)—5th President of Watch Tower Society[96][97]
Lyman Alexander Swingle (1945–2001)[98]
Milton George Henschel (1947–2003)—6th President of Watch Tower Society[89]
John O. Groh (1965–1975)[89]
Raymond Franz (1971–1980)[39][89][99][100][101] – Resigned
George D. Gangas (1971–1994)[102]
Leo K. Greenlees (1971–1984)[103][104] – Resigned
William K. Jackson (1971–1981)[89]
William Lloyd Barry (1974–1999)[105][106]
John C. Booth (1974–1996)[107]
Ewart C. Chitty (1974–1979)[108][109] – Resigned
Charles J. Fekel (1974–1977)[110]
Theodore Jaracz (1974–2010)[111][112][113]
Karl F. Klein (1974–2001)[114]
Albert D. Schroeder (1974–2006)[115]
Daniel Sydlik (1974–2006)[116]
Carey W. Barber (1977–2007)[117]
John E. Barr (1977–2010)[118][119]
Martin Pötzinger (1977–1988)[120]
Guy Hollis Pierce (1999–2014)[6][121]

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Where Can I find Jehovah's Witnesses and the Problem of Mental Illness Without Paying $100+?

by jacobm in

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friends

any cheaper ways of getting a copy?

i won't want to steal.

oppostate

You can read the article version of this book at:

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/mental-issues.php

From there click on the link to the book on pdf.

http://www.jwfacts.com/pdf/jws-mental-illness-john-stedman.pdf

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organization obsesion

by Richard C B in

why are you guys so obsessed with organizations?

there has to be order in the world and organised people!

oppostate

Dear Richard C B, whose member account name must stand for "Richard Cult B*tch" am I right?

JW's prefer the term 0rganization because their turd of a Company President Judge for four days Rutherford told them the term religion was a no-no.

So today the JW religion that Rutherford founded on the schizophrenic Millenerian Bible Student movement, is an 0rganization and they proudly display their JW.0rg signs because the money-making religious and litigious company wasn't successful in getting it copyrighted, otherwise the religions-minions wouldn't be able to brandish it about like the previous religion's Watchtower logo which was a no-no to use.

So that's the obsession about 0rganization, or as much of an answer I venture to give you nincompoop of a troll.

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Update on fade. Elders finally are interested on my "welfare"

by StarTrekAngel in

so since the last time i posted regarding my fade, you all learned that i was having some health issues.

that came along just right to quit going to meeting without raising much suspicion.

somehow everyone at the hall seemed ready to tell my wife they missed me but attended the memorial and no one bothered to take the initiative to back those words with actions.. i guess that having seen me at the memorial they at least felt bad because last night i got a call from one of the elders telling me they want to come today and visit with me.

oppostate

Turn any shepherding call with more than one elder down!

Tell the kind elder you'd rather meet up with him for a coffee somewhere and then just chit chat with him and avoid any theo-cultic-talk, to any question he might ask in this regards just say "hum, I dunno, I guess I'll have to think about that" and "hum, I guess I'll have to think about that too" and "I guess that's another one to think about".

To any theocratese expressions from him squint your eyes a bit and tilt your head like he just said something in a foreign language you don't understand.

Keep changing the subject to non-theo-cultic topics and try to speak to his genuine personality not his cult-personality.

Anyway, that's how I handle these types (and their anti-types as well).