Steve hassan's books have been extremely helpful. In the uK the charity encourage offers free exit counselling for ex cult members and has specialist counsellors some of whom have worked with Steve Hassan. They offer free counselling for those who cannot afford to pay.
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Steven Hassan - Cult Mind Control Exit-Counseling and the SIA (2003)
by Dogpatch insteven alan hassan, cult counselor and mind control expert is a nationally certified counselor and licensed mental health counselor and has developed a breakthrough approach to help loved ones rescue cult mind control victims.
he is a former member of the moon cult.
ex-cult members and others seek him out for specialized counseling to help them recover from symptoms other mental health professionals are not trained to address.
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Watchtower admits, "We are like the Catholic Church"
by Juan Viejo2 incalvin rouse describes himself as "general counsel for the national organization of jehovah's witnesses out of brooklyn, new york.".
while representing one of the defendants during a trial held in san mateo county court in redwood city, california, on february 22, 2012, rouse made this amazing statement:.
"ordinarily, i wouldn't be here, but this is one our 13,000 congregations in the united states.
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nugget
We need to keep track of these contradictions and statements. In Australia nothing that happens is the responsibility of the Governing Body but in America what the Governing body says is law. In other countries individuals do not represent the organisation everything they choose to do is their personal decision but in the USA no one can serve without official permission.
As has been previously pointed out one has to do with responsibility for actions and the other has to do with ownership of property. So the buildings count for more than the people who worship in them.
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2012 July Kingdom Ministry!
by Atlantis in.
2012 july kingdom ministry*click the link below and when the next page appears scroll down and click the link in the long blue box that says: (click here to start download from sendspace).
ignore all the other buttons and symbols.
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They forgot to add the publisher who has little knowledge and is barely literate will be able to present this brochure as it lacks words with multiple (sorry lots of ) sylables.
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My mother is trying to indoctrinate my 4 year old and I do not know what to do
by jwfacts inmy mother lives a plane trip away from me, so does not get to spend very much time with zac.
however, she is in sydney for 3 weeks and has been babysitting.
i knew that she would be talking about jehovah, but was very annoyed yesterday when zac said my mother was speaking all day about jehovah, such as how he made the stars.. in the past, i was not overly concerned if zac learnt about jehovah's witnesses, as i thought it would help with critical thinking skills to understand different points of view.
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nugget
Just think how much damage a motivated manipulative adult can do. Paedophiles groom children in nurturing families all the time. If she is determined and you and your wife are not she can have an immense influence on your child. Your wife needs to be united with you on this one. This is not a harmless grandparent you are dealing with.
Your son sounds lovely but it's never to early giving him the skills to see through the nonsense. Preempt some of the things she may address with your son so that he isn't ambushed. The thinking atheist you tube podcasts teach children how to reason on religion it may need to be adapted for his age but it is a starting point.
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I made it!! I'm just so freaking happy!!!
by Rocky_Girl inas some of you know, i started college 5 years ago for the first time at age 27. i had been out of the "truth" for 9 years at that time, but had just broken free of the mentality.
well, on saturday i walked across the stage with the 130th graduating class at rocky mountain college!.
after 5 years of working several jobs, taking care of two little boys as a single mom, and trying to get the most out of my college experience, i earned my master of accountancy, bachelor of science in business management, and minors in writing and organizational leadership.
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nugget
Well done what an amazing achievement. Deep respect to you it is wonderful to hear such positive outcomes.
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Awake 7/2012: YPA Are we just friends or more? pt.2 (with running snarkiness)
by corpusdei inoriginal article here.
more snark here.
young people ask - are we just friendsor more?
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nugget
This is all about control and spreading the idea that friendships need to be monitored. Outside the organisation youths make friends and suffer heartbreak but they learn to negotiate their way through relationships and make choices. Witnesses are held back emotionally they are taught to fear contact with the opposite sex and led to believe that when someone is nice to them then they are special and that the person wants to take the relationship further probably leading to immorality. If the witness advice was so amazing there would not be so many inappropriate, rushed, marriages.
Although the advice appears sound to witnesses the underlying thread is all about control and submission. The idea that noone outside the organisation is a good friend and that youths should listen to their parents regarding affairs of the heart.
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Zone Overseer Talk - Would You Wear Saul's Armour?
by WinstonSmith ini have been meaning to post these up since i signed up to jwn but, until someone mentioned the zone talk that is happening tomorrow in new zealand, i had forgotten!
i used to be a prolific note taker during public talks, assemblies and conventions.
as i became more awake to the truth about the truth this died off.
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nugget
So his message is don't try to improve things make do with less. God will look after you it is his responsibility. The society takes everything and offers nothing again.
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Hello... this is me and my story...
by jamir ini was raised as a jw, baptized in a 1998 district convention, somewhere in portugal.. studying with jws had some positive things (not many... just a few).
i learned to read before going to school and developed this excelent skill of reading, interpreting and resuming texts.
i was an excellent student.. as a teenager my life sucked (and i considered it a "privilege" at that time) because i simply couldn't enjoy these best years of my life, because had to avoid all contact with people of my age (there were no young people in my congregation) so i lived the best years of my life as a "forever alone".
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nugget
If you are in a position to move away then I would it will allow you to make a fresh start. If the meetings are unbearable then stop going. Everyone reaches their own tipping point and it sounds like you are close to yours. Living a lie requires an immense amount of mental resilience and until you have figured out what you want to do taking a break gives you mental space.
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Mad Sweeney checking in
by Mad Sweeney init's been many months since i've been here.
missed the place and wanted to stop by and check in.. i have a ton of crap going on in my personal life right now.
if you're a fb friend you probably know the story already.. anyway, wanted to say hi and hope to be around a bit this summer..
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nugget
So sorry you are having a rough time. We're here for you.
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I can't take it anymore!
by OneDayillBeFree inthe lying, the faking and pretending, the hiding, the endless mind-numbing meetings, service, preaching, assemblies, everything!.
most of the time i can handle it quite well.
but not today.
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nugget
It can seem that you are alone and lost stuck in a religion you no longer believe in and unsure whether taking the first step away is the right thing to do. It is a scary place to be but it is not healthy to continue to try to follow a path you are not committed to it inflates these feelings of isolation since you do not truly belong in either camp and you are constantly denying your own thoughts and feelings.
People here have been in a similar place and had to make similar choices, when they tell you it will get better they can be trusted. You need to give life away from the organisation a try. Perhaps try to get to a get together and have a chance to talk through some of your fears and concerns. These gatherings help you put things in perpective and allow you to make connections with people who truly get what you are going through.
If you are feeling desperate then counselling will help in the UK there is a new charity Encourage which provides counselling for people who leave cults. They may be able to put you in touch with similar organisations in other countries if you are outside the UK.