Like the JWs always say a life changing event such as a death in the family really helps people to re evaluate and be willing to listen.
Posts by nugget
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30My Dad Said He Loved Me
by cognac inhe's said it before, but, it was different this time.
his dad just died and i know there are parts about me that are the exact replica of him and grandpa.
him and gramp had a falling out cause of the jw religion.. anyways, i had the funny feeling that my dad has been looking at things differently lately, but, i know he won't say much cause he's in way too deep at this point.. he came up to me the other night, and said he really loved me.
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nugget
My son has a birthday and we have a wedding anniversary so busy month.
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Telling family about "new light"
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite inokay, now it's my turn to start a thread about the gb/fds "new light" now that it's been well covered by many threads.
i've noticed that a few have brought this subject up with dub family who accepted wt "new light" without objection, saying that it "made sense" for the fds to only be the gb.
so i have an idea of how to bring this up with my family in such a way that will highlight that this doesn't make sense... at all.. and the timing of this whole thing is incredibly convenient for me since it wasn't that long ago that this came up with my parents and i said that the wt interpretation of the fds in matthew was out-of-context and flawed.
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nugget
new light equals new nonsense. I toild my mum that the new member of the GB was the same age as me. She stated he couldn't really be a member of the anointed and God would sort it out. I said well mum that may be the case but in the mean time he is part of the elite who will tell JWs what to believe and how to behave. You will have to follow him regardless of what you think. Also other people who supposedly have a close relationship with God picked him and saw no problem with it. Why would God tell them to do that or perhaps they misheard.
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Mrs Punk left the family!
by punkofnice init's nearly 2 months now but mrs punk finally left myself (mentally diseased apostate tm) with my 2 non kingdum hell attending boys.. she left when my jw daughter moved out and they moved in together.
i don't think it'll be long before my daughter gets sick of her mum but there you go!!.
i received a call from mrs punk to say: 'i didn't leave you because of the religion!'.
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nugget
Sorry to hear your news in some ways. JWs do break up families they can't help themselves. The society inserts itself into the family making sure that first loyalty is to them. The sad thing is JWs sacrifice real relationships and affection for a fake loyalty to a society that doesn't give a rars arse about them.
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Do You Realize That Almost EVERY Society Publication Is "Old Light" Now?
by minimus innow that the "faithful & discreet slave class" has become essentially the governing body since 1919, almost every publication is obsolete and useless!
(i know, they are useless)..... the fds doctrine is a core teaching unique to jehovah's witnesses and now i believe they will have to change all of their understandings that are recorded in the revelation climax book, ezekiel books---every prophetic book written by the society!.
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wasn't it lucky that we threw all our old literature out. Perish the thought that I would have apostate literature hanging around the house.
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Eric Reeder's dignified obit
by Patron inreeder oak ridge eric hampton reeder september 27, 2012 eric hampton reeder sadly passed away at his home in oak ridge on september 27, at 51 years.
he's survived by two sons, tyler and travis, and many dear friends.
he will always be seen in the mountains, seas, suns, and storms he loved.
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nugget
Welcome to the board and thank you for posting. It is always helpful to have the perspective of someone who knew Eric well.
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Jwfacts-- More Lies But This Time About The Great Crowd
by Recovery injwfacts has an article that explains why the great crowd must be in heaven.
i am also aware that many of these are the same arguments that stemmed from the 'awakenings at bethel' so my statements are not simply attacks of jwfact's character (since these arguments are probably not original) but rather his copy and paste of what others have said instead of verifying it as 'fact' for himself.. so here are jwfacts arguments:.
1. he shows that russell and rutherford (at some point) believed that the great crowd were in heaven.. 2. each term that describes the great crowd of revelation 7 is else used to described the anointed by the wt.
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nugget
I am sorry recovery I am unconvinced by your arguments. I refuse to take the rehashed words of someone controlled by a cult such as JWs over the words of someone such as JWfacts who has objectively taken time to examine the belief.
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Rutherford's smear campaign (a must read)
by Leolaia inthere has been some interest recently about the moyle case, and how it may have set a precident in what became the society's disfellowshipping policy.
in july 1939, the chief legal counsel of the watchtower bible & tract society, olin r. moyle, resigned from his position in a protest over conditions at bethel and rutherford's mistreatment of workers.
he did not want to continue living under those conditions and he felt he could effect positive change for his brothers by taking such a stand.
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nugget
I am so glad someone alerted me to this thread. Shocking events and it is painful to see how one dictator can cause so much intimidation and upset. JFR does himself no favours.
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Please respond to an email from a distraught dad who is losing his daughter to the JWs through a JW boyfriend
by AndersonsInfo ini received the following email through my website, www.watchtowerdocuments.com.
how would you reply to his question?
(i'll send him the link to this thread containing your replies.).
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nugget
This is a difficult position for any parent. One thing I will say is that the more you oppose this relationship and the faith the more you will drive her towards it. At that age hormones and the impetuosity of youth with it's love of drama will respond negatively to any ultimatums. In addition to this JWs use the presence of any opposition as a sure sign that you are following the right religion since the devil is putting pressure on you to quit through family members. The most important thing is to keep the lines of communication open and reassure your daughter of your unconditional love. I understand that this is difficult when you fear she may be making a bad choice but at this point you need to make sure that if anything goes wrong and she falls out of love with this boy that she feels comfortable to come home. I know that you faith is important to you but any attempt to be distrespectful about the boyfriend or his faith will end in disaster.
I would write to her if she refuses to speak to you telling her you love her and want her to be happy, that you appreciate that she is an adult and free to make choices in her life and hope that whatever she decides she will feel happy to come and talk to you about it. She is important to the whole family and is loved, you understand that she may be angry with you but she is always your daughter and your only wish is for her to come and visit or call. Remind her of a shared happy time you shared to remind her of the importance of your familial bond.
ICSA has contacts with someone who can act as a mediator and help to re-establish communications if things have broken down completely. If you are lucky she will fall out of love and walk away from the madness but if not this is a process that requires patience and restraint,
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There Are Many New Ones Here. Has JWN Helped You?
by minimus ini think simon green's site has helped more people than he ever would have imagined!
do you agree??
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nugget
Yes it helped me to critically examine my beliefs and start thinking for myself. It helped me to build a new life and find other people who truly understood what I was going through and when the poop hit the fan it helped me to know that I had done the right thing. It was extremely valuable to me personally and I will be forever grateful for the help and support I found here.