nugget

Joined

• started 74 topics
• posted 4,149 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by nugget

• 
  57

  What rumors have you heard about yourself since leaving?

  by donny in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  good morning all,.

  i have had the opportunity over the last couple of years to speak with a couple of jw's who had either attended the same congregation i did or were married to someone who to the same one.

  for the record, i disassociated myself in 1992 due to being followed around by an elder or two who had heard that i had ray franz's "crisis of conscience" in my possession.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  nugget

  I never speak to anyone from my old congregation and have no idea what they have said about me. They probably haven't noticed I have gone.
• 
  64

  A great picture for proving that JWs aren't weird and cultish...

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's a shame this is only in the study edition, so the general public can't see how normal and down-to-earth the witnesses are in how they perceive themselves.... .

  .

  cedars.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  nugget

  Flash AHAA he saved everyone of us

  Can't get the music out of my head.
• 
  70

  Reaching Loved Ones Stuck in a Cult: An Idea for Discussion

  by 00DAD in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you may have heard the expression: "the map is not the territory.

  " have you ever thought about how this idea may help you reach your loved ones stuck in a cult?

  the phrase has been attributed to polish-american scientist and philosopher alfred korzybski.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  nugget

  With witnesses someone has to be mentally ready to accept the possibility that they have been misled. Telling them too much too soon just forces them back in and plays to all their fears. It is also true that for some the cult fufils a need since it is hard to see how they would fit in or have any social life without the meeting structure which also insists that other people put themselves out for them. For parents there is also the issue that accepting that they have been misled means they also have to accept that they brought their children up in a harmful cult and did not give them a normal or happy life. Steve Hassan is right that if they are happy in the cult there will be little motivation to change.

  Trying to get someone out is a balancing act weighing up what the consequences will be for them with the benefits of mental freedom.

  Approaching the subject obliquely has the best chance since any direct challenge will cause them to retreat into the cult and raise a barrier to any further discussion.
• 
  63

  JW played me and broke my heart

  by new22day in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  [if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:documentproperties> <o:revision>0</o:revision> <o:totaltime>0</o:totaltime> <o:pages>1</o:pages> <o:words>468</o:words> <o:characters>2669</o:characters> <o:company>atb</o:company> <o:lines>22</o:lines> <o:paragraphs>6</o:paragraphs> <o:characterswithspaces>3131</o:characterswithspaces> <o:version>14.0</o:version> </o:documentproperties> <o:officedocumentsettings> <o:allowpng /> </o:officedocumentsettings> </xml><!

  [endif][if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:worddocument> <w:view>normal</w:view> <w:zoom>0</w:zoom> <w:trackmoves /> <w:trackformatting /> <w:punctuationkerning /> <w:validateagainstschemas /> <w:saveifxmlinvalid>false</w:saveifxmlinvalid> <w:ignoremixedcontent>false</w:ignoremixedcontent> <w:alwaysshowplaceholdertext>false</w:alwaysshowplaceholdertext> <w:donotpromoteqf /> <w:lidthemeother>en-us</w:lidthemeother> <w:lidthemeasian>ja</w:lidthemeasian> <w:lidthemecomplexscript>x-none</w:lidthemecomplexscript> <w:compatibility> <w:breakwrappedtables /> <w:snaptogridincell /> <w:wraptextwithpunct /> <w:useasianbreakrules /> <w:dontgrowautofit /> <w:splitpgbreakandparamark /> <w:enableopentypekerning /> <w:dontflipmirrorindents /> <w:overridetablestylehps /> <w:usefelayout /> </w:compatibility> <m:mathpr> <m:mathfont m:val="cambria math" /> <m:brkbin m:val="before" /> <m:brkbinsub m:val="&#45;-" /> <m:smallfrac m:val="off" /> <m:dispdef /> <m:lmargin m:val="0" /> <m:rmargin m:val="0" /> <m:defjc m:val="centergroup" /> <m:wrapindent m:val="1440" /> <m:intlim m:val="subsup" /> <m:narylim m:val="undovr" /> </m:mathpr></w:worddocument> </xml><!

  [endif][if gte mso 10]> <style> /* style definitions */ table.msonormaltable {mso-style-name:"table normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:cambria; mso-ascii-font-family:cambria; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-hansi-font-family:cambria; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]startfragment.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  nugget

  Yes you were played. The problem is JWs do not have proper relationships, the only one that counts is the relationship with their faith. As you did not share his beliefs your thoughts, feelings and aspirations counted for nothing. Your relationship was forbidden fruit and whatever he said he was lying. He should not have been dating outside the faith or having sex outside of marriage. He wanted to go back to the religion and you were an obstacle. He also wanted to enjoy your company and have sex without making any emotional comitment to you. You were an object in his life but not a person.

  He lied to you all. It is better that you found out sooner rather than later. You are worth more than this and he did not and does not appreciate and value you. There will be someone who does I am sure.
• 
  2

  christmas decorations

  by bigmac in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  .

  1. 
  2. 
• 

  nugget

  I saw this on facebook and laughed. I must confess that I love it when people make an effort.
• 
  20

  Past the point of no return...

  by metaspy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  past the point of no return, the final threshold.

  the bridge is crossed, so stand and watch it burn.

  i've passed the point of no return.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  nugget

  Short gets read, long is ignored. Good letter.
• 
  20

  Cover article about Jehovah's Witnesses (portuguese magazine)

  by TJ Curioso in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the magazine sabado (saturday) launched yesterday (11/22/2012) an issue where the unknown world of jehovah's witnesses .

  is revealed, and not for the bestreasons.

  from the false prophecies, doctrinal inconsistencies, pedophilia and absurd prohibitions .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  nugget

  Well done truly awesome.
• 
  11

  He brought her INTO MY HOUSE!

  by WuzLovesDubs in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  im stuck in hell here...im stuck in a house i cant get sold, to get the money so that i can get the divorce and get away from this cheatin ass jw im married to.

  i know every single time he goes out he goes to be with her ("but only in groups") and even though he was told by the elders to not have contact with her because its inappropriate he continues to do so unabated.

  last week i went across the state to attend my sons final state marching competition as a senior...which he never went to ever.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  nugget

  The man has no class and is a selfish inconsiderate arse. If the religion were that important to him he would have had the decentcy to get divorced and then think about a new relationship rather than start shopping around whilst still married. I can't see him restraining himself and she is no better. They are the ones trapped in a religion that has these rules and they can chose to follow them or not. Whether he is with her or not is not your responsibility. Whether he is happy or not after the divorce is not your concern.

  You have every right to be angry and annoyed any other response would be inappropriate. The sooner you can break free from this relationship the better. You are there for your children and that counts, investing in the relationships that are meaningful and important is far better than being the whipping boy for someone who doesn't appreciate that you are awesome.
• 
  23

  HD Documentary Video About Watchtower Sex Abuse Cover-Up In Australia

  by Scott77 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  part 01 of part 03. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no6s7hc40ic&feature=relmfu.

  part 02 of part 03. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wofze9o2-ue&feature=relmfu.

  part 03 of part 03. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7ia4lcw0di&feature=relmfu.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  nugget

  The society has had ten years to change and arrogantly felt that there was no need. Time will not make it change only pressure from outside that causes financial penalty will force it to change. The commission is probably the best hope for witnesses in Australia. I am hoping that the publicity generated from the commission will get into the witness subconcious and start them thinking.
• 
  100

  My mother passed away this morning...

  by Tatiana in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for any old-school ex-jws here that remember my many posts about my abusive jw mother and my sister committing suicide because of it...she passed away this morning because she began to bleed out and refused a transfusion.

  she had been in the hospital for a month.

  it appears she suffered a stroke and wasn't found by the brothers & sisters for three days (they missed her at the meetings).

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  nugget

  So sorry for your loss. I am sorry that you were unable to see her before she died and that you have to endure a kingdom hall funeral.